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Rudolf Krämer-Badoni: Murder of Jews, murder of women, holy Church
Chapter "Murder of women" 03: Doctor angelicus
(quotes from Thomas of Aquin a.o. ag. women - mass murders ag. dissenters Waldensians, Cathars+Templars etc.)
Femicide of Church: The claim of black magic - invention of delicts + of fantasy devils - mass murder against women, Waldensians, Cathars and Templars - propaganda against women - demons and mental trips - enlighteners are banned, etc.
Demons, harmful spells, impotent men + divorce [p.143] - fertilization is said to be “sin” and man is thus from the fantasy devil [p.143] - Buenaventura: sex is said to be “vicious + disgusting” [p.144 ] - When something unfavorable happens, Church simply claims “harmful magic” and murders a woman - Inquisition 1184: mass murder of Waldensians and Cathars [p.144] - from 1252: torture to extort false confessions - impotence is said to be harmful magic, but natural medicine is said to be forbidden [p.144-145 ] - angels in different dimensions [p.145] - night spirits harassing sleeping people [p.145-146] - the Jesus Fantasy pope bans Enlightenment philosopher Roger Bacon [p.146] - the Rose Novel part 1 from 1236 with love about a rose (Guillaume de Lorris) + part 2 from 1280 with love as a tool for offspring production (Jean de Meung) [p.147-148 ] - Thomas Aquinas with agitation against women: unsuccessful men, girls come through defective sperm, defective uterine blood, wet winds [p.148] - Ernst Robert Curtius confirms: Love is a tool for offspring, otherwise people will die out [p.148-149] - sex drive [p.151] - Church opinion until the 11th century: women have no soul [p.151] - Burning of women Carcassonne + Toulouse 1275 because of defamation with the Fantasy devil - also mass murder of the Templars in France 1310 [p.152] - Demon questions: Turning people into animals - carrying people through the air [p.152-153] - Rapturing people [p.153] - Devil question: The Fantasy devil raptures the Fantasy Jesus [p.154]Rudolf Krämer: Criminal Jesus Fantasy Church claimed that women would have no soul
Yet in the 11th century there were discussions if women would have a soul principally. [p.151]
All these crimes of the criminal Church were committed in the name of a Fantasy Jesus and a Fantasy god - and they were alcoholics!
This alcohol-corpse Church is supposed to go to HELL. Church is a CRIMINAL ORGANIZATION. M.P, June 21, 2023 / March 26, 2025
from: Krämer: Judenmord, Frauenmord, heilige Kirche; Fischer Edition - Frankfurt am Main (1988) - www.fischerverlage.de - Book: ISBN 987-359630819-4
presented and completed with new research by Michael Palomino (2023 / 2025 - translation 2025)
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-- Joachim Bumke: Höfische Kultur. Literatur und Gesellschaft im hohen Mittelalter. München 1986, Bd. II, Seite 456 ff. Dort findet man eine reichhaltige Zusammenstellung von einschlägigen Thomas-Zitaten deutsch und lateinisch mit genauer Quellenangabe. [S.148]
-- Georges Duby, Guy Lardreau: Geschichte und Geschichtswissenschaft. Frankfurt 1982, S.57 [S.151]
-- Roger Bacon (1214-1292): Brief "De nullitate magiae" (Über die Nichtigkeit der Magie) [S.146]
MURDER OF WOMEN
[S.119]
3. Doctor angelicus [Thomas of Aquin]
Thomas Aquinas: demons are imagination
[Thomas Aquinas says something. He was a “Doctor angelicus” and made a commentary on the “Sentences” (German: Sentenzen, observations, aphorisms [web01]) of [Fantasy] Peter Lombardus. Thomas Aquinas thought that demons were only imagination or harmful magic]:
Quotation of Aquin:
"Some have said that maleficium [editor: harmful magic] would be nothing in reality but was only an idea of people who don't know about natural physics when they see something bad without knowing the cause. But this real thinking is against the authority of the saints preaching that demons have the power over body and spirit of the humans when it's permitted by the [Fantasy] god. Therefore the malefici [editor: harmful magic] are possible by demons showing all sorts of signs. The claim of those [editor: critics] comes from the roots of paganism or of lower beliefs. They did not believe in demons, but they claimed that this was imagination of the population. Therefore the population itself was the force creating the horror imaginations and then blaming the demon for it. As by these strong imaginations also corresponsing figures are created, these people believed to see demons, so.
Thomas Aquinas: harmful magic does not provoke divorce
But real belief is rejecting this believing that angels fallen from the sky would have converted into demons and can perform many things by their precise thinking what we cannot perform. Therefore, persons believing that the demons can do such things, are called malefici. Therefore others were saying that hindering sexual unification by maleficium can be proved, but no such thing would be for eternity, That's why the matrimonial connection is not divorced, and they demand that laws stating this wold be abrogated.
Thomas Aquinas: impotent men may be divorced
But this is contrary to experience and to the new laws, which are compatible with the old ones, and therefore it must be distinguished that impotence to coitus resulting from maleficium is either eternal, so the marriage is divorced, or is not eternal, then they are not divorced [editor.: Since Innocent V, three years had to be waited for; after that, if the malefic impotence persisted, its eternal duration was to be assumed, and the marriage could be divorced]. [Ed. ... ]
[Thomas Aquinas: Humans are generally said to be created by Fantasy devil because fertilization is “sin” - the snake of seduction is the fantasy devil
It must also be said that the first [p.142] lapse when mankind became the slave of [Fantasy] devil was the act of procreation and is given to any child. That's why the [Fantasy] devil is permitted by [Fantasy] god to have the power of maleficium [harmful magic] about this act more than over other acts. Also snakes have the power of maleficium, as it's said [only criminal Fantasy Bible says!], stronger than other animals, because the [Fantasy] devil was seducing the snake." * [p.143]
[End of the quote].
* All the texts quoted in this section can be found in Hansen in Latin. The translations are mine. R.K.-B. [p.143]
This was Doctor angelicus Thomas Aquinas in his commentary on the “Sentences” (German: Sentenzen, statements, sense saying [web01]) of Petrus Lombardus (4, dist. 34, qu.i, art.3).
[In other cultures, snakes are holy animals, for example with the Mapuches in Chile].
Bonaventure says something: Sex should be “vicious” and “disgusting” - and then a demon came and killed 7 men in bed
His contemporary friend Mr. Bonaventure was asked why the [Fantasy] devil did not also prevent eating, but is only limiting the sexual act. Bonaventure gave the following comment about the Lombard's [Aquin] text:
“As that act is vicious (vitiosus) and quite disgusting (foetens), and since people usually unite voluptuously for this act, the [Fantasy] devil has greater power here and is allowed more. This is proven by Scripture and authority, because it is written (Tob 3) that the demon named Asmodaeus has killed seven men in bed and not while eating.”
Rudolf Krämer claims: The Mr. Thomas Aquinas with his Jesus Fantasy shall be a “great one”
The great Thomas Aquinas lived from 1225 to 1274.
Inquisition against dissenters + women for “harmful magic”
Already in those times, sorcereses were burnt as we saw in the paragraff before. There was a torture about confessions as proofs against magic proceedings (because there were no witnesses), these confessions had to be extorted, and this method was applied by secular courts since long times already, 1190 in Beauvais [West of France] also by [Jesus Fantasy] bishops and magistrate in common (comparep.138).
Criminal Jesus Fantasy Inquisition from 1184 in S-France and N-Italy: mass murder of Waldensians and Cathars
The episcopal [Jesus Fantasy] Inquisition (secret tracing) was created in 1184 against the southern French and northern Italian Waldensians and Cathars (the pure, hence the word “heretics”), who were cruelly exterminated in the Albigensian Wars (1209-1229) after the call to crusade [p.143] by Pope Innocent III [always because of a Jesus FANTASY].
Criminal Jesus-Fantasy-Inquisition: “Judges” are Jesus Fantasy Dominicans+Jesus Fantasy Franciscans
Since 1227 there was de facto, since 1231 officially the central papal [Jesus Fantasy] Inquisition with the appointment of the Dominicans and Franciscans as heretic judges.
Criminal Jesus Fantasy Inquisition from 1252: using torture to extort false confessions
In 1252, [the Jesus Fantasy] Pope Innocent IV officially authorized the use of torture.
In 1258, Alexander IV introduced the same treatment for sorcerers if they were “strongly suspected of heresy”.
This formula was included in the Liber sextus of the Decretals in 1299 [by the Jesus Fantasy Pope] Boniface VIII, and became [Jesus Fantasy] canon law.
Thomas Aquinas: belief in harmful magic = “popular delusion”
Thomas knew exactly what “some” were saying, namely that the whole maleficium business was humbug and was due to the psychologically vehement popular delusion. His opponents put forward very impressive arguments that sound convincing even to today's ears. (This is a fatum for apologists who want to excuse any ecclesiastical or theological nonsense with allegedly backward historical circumstances). Thomas' answer: Nothing there, that violates the authority of the [Jesus Fantasy] saints.
The Jesus Fantasy Thomas Aquinas claimed that belief in harmful magic was popular madness - but impotence shall be harmful magic
And there was sitting this Thomas and speculating in peace. He was thinking about his life task bringing harmony into the world with all things of [Fantasy] belief, [Fantasy] god, cience and [Jesus Fantasy] hurch, all in one logic system. If there were some people trapped in this system was not his interest. He was teaching just the pure [Jesus Fantasy] belief and pure cience.
St. Thomas Aquinas: Impotence should be harmful magic - [and natural medicine and joy of life should be forbidden]
But what is to be said about those who perform the impotence magic verse (impotence spell)? “Whether the use of the help of demons is sin: [Ed.: ...] In all cases there is apostasy because there is a pact with the demon, sometimes expressly, when there is an invocation, or sometimes by some other procedure, also without sacrifice possible." (Comm. on Petr. Lombardus, 2 Sent., dist. 7, last article). In his [p.144] treatise "About the demons" (orig. Lat.: “De daemonibus”) the pact is even more clearly defined:
“either without saying anything (tacitly) or formally concluded.”
The Jesus-fantasy Richard of Middleton claims: Abandoned women commit bad magic verses (spells) for impotence against the ex
Women practicing the apostatic impotence spell are always abandoned women lover according to the teachings of the Church. This says the formarly famous [Jesus Fantasy] Franciscan Richard of Middleton,
“Ubi allegatur maleficium, semper prasumit ecclesia illud praecessisse desponsationem” (Where a maleficium takes place, the [Jesus Fantasy] Church always assumes that it is preceded by a [Ed.: broken] engagement).
The INVENTED Isaiah claims a “covenant” with fantasy hell because of impotence
By the way, most [Jesus Fantasy] theologians who dealt with the [Fantasy] devil's pact referred to [a Fantasy] Isaiah, chapter 28, verses 15 and 17f:
"You say: We made a covenant with the death, and with [Fantasy] hell we have a treaty as a prevention when flood is coming so we are not hit by it [Ed.: ...]
Hail shall drive away the fake refuge, and water [waters] shall take away the ambrellaw. [So there is the appeal] that your covenant with the death shall be solved and your treaty with hell shall not exist."
(Komm. zum 2. Buch des Lombarden, dist. 8, qu. I, art.2)
The Jesus Fantasy Thomas Aquinas says: Angels exist + spirits harass sleeping people - the night spirits
The Jesus Fantasy Thomas Aquinas says: Angels exist and are living in different dimensions
Can the spirits do more? [Fantasy Jesus] Thomas (and all other [Jesus Fantasy] scholastics no less, if not more so) find it important first of all to explain how you can get aware of the [Fantasy] devil first. As normal, he is rejecting all critics as a prevention who are calling the problem only imaginary, and then they are stating solemnly:
"But the [Jesus Fantasy] saints all say that the angel also presents himself to the humans in a bodily version, and this is confirmed in the [Fantasy] Bible. Therefore, one has to say without any doubt that the angels when they are in a body, can be seen by the humans."
Thomas knew exactly what “some” were saying, namely that the whole maleficium business was humbug and was due to the psychologically vehement popular delusion.
His opponents put forward very impressive arguments that sound convincing even to today's ears.
(This is a fatum for apologists who want to excuse any ecclesiastical or theological nonsense with allegedly backward historical circumstances).Thomas' answer: Nothing there, that violates the authority of the [Jesus fantasy] saints. St. Thomas Aquinas: Impotence should be harmful magic - [and natural medicine and joie de vivre should be forbidden] But what is to be said about those who perform the impotence spell?“Whether the use of the help of demons is sin: [Ed.: ...] In all cases there is apostasy on account of the pact entered into with the demon, either expressly, if invocation takes place, or by some other process, even if no sacrifices are offered.”
(Comm. on Petr. Lombardus, 2 Sent., dist. 7, last article). In his [p.144] treatise “De daemonibus” the pact is even more clearly defined: “either tacitly or formally concluded.”
The Jesus Fantasy Thomas Aquinas says: Angels exist + spirits harass sleeping people - the night spirits
The Jesus Fantasy Thomas Aquinas says: Angels exist and live in different dimensions
Can the spirits do more? [Thomas (and all other [Jesus Fantasy] scholastics no less, if not more so) finds it important first of all to explain how one can become certain of the [Fantasy] devil. As usual, he dismisses in advance the critics who derisively call the problem imaginary, and then triumphantly states:
“But the [Jesus fantasy] saints all say that the angels also appear to men in bodily vision, which is found to agree with the text of Scripture.It must therefore be said without any doubt that the angels, when they take on bodies, are seen by men.”
(Comm. to the 2nd Book of Lombardy, dist. 8, qu. I, art.2)
The Jesus fantasy Thomas Aquinas: Ghosts harass sleeping people
And now it continues quite logically. Can ghosts also have sexual intercourse with people? Of course they can, even though they only have an illusory body. This is remedied immediately. In the “Summa” (Book I, qu. 51, art. 6), the Doctor angelicus [Thomas Aquinas] is saying:
"When the women has sex with a demon [p.145] getting pregnant and a baby, so the baby is not from from them or from the semen from the admitted body, but the semen is received just by some man. The demon for this is a female demon having sex with a man, and with this semen, the devil is a fake man then giving the sperm to the woman. So the baby is not from the demon but from the man where the semen was tapped. [In Latin]: First the demon made the succubus (fake beautiful female demon [web02], and then the demon made the incubus (athletic, male demon [web03])."
[Today (2023) there are genetic tests to determine a father, so all these false fantasies of the criminal Jesus Fantasy church fall away].
Rudolf Krämer: The Jesus fantasy Thomas Aquinas is supposed to be a “logician”
In fact he warns that his logic texts could be abused for mobbing of scholastic principles, or better, should. Where remains the general doctrine of [Jesus Fantasy] holy men who is for itself just a strange argument? And where [is] the accordance with the [Fantasy] Bible? Is he mad? No, he is logic. He is the angel's doctor, he knows about it using his dialectic of savation truths. He rejects any critic with anger. And he has all reason for this.
The independent Mr. Roger Bacon uses scientific studies to argue against the philosophy of harmful magic
His contemporary, Mr. Roger Bacon (1214-1292), who set scientific studies against the unrealistic [Jesus Fantasy] scholastic dialectic, wrote a letter “De nullitate magiae” (On the nullity of magic). In bold anticipation [being a mental pioneer], he questioned the medieval way of thinking in astonishing ways. He was performing observation of nature and mathematical research instead of mere speculation - it was an joyful early spring that was prevented from blossoming by speculators about demonic seed tapping and related matters. Bacon's works were banned, he himself imprisoned. Finis. Finis? Not quite.
The Jesus Fantasy Mr. Albertus Magnus with scientific studies AND comparing with Jesus Fantasy philosophy
Mr. Albertus Magnus had copied the mentality of observation of nature from Mr. Bacon, but now he was adding the ecclesiastical [Jesus Fantasy] way of thinking. Sometimes he considered natural causes as for impotence, but finally permitted the present mentality with it's justification that [Jesus Fantasy] Church would tech this.
His disciple Thomas [Aquinas] thought basically nothing [p.146] different from what the [Jesus Fantasy] Church taught, and he was speculating more in the foolish direction as we have seen.
The heartless logician Mr. Jean de Meung: The "Rose Novel"
[The Rose Novel
Data from Mossad Wikipedia: https://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rosenroman [web07]
-- Part 1 by Guillaume de Lorris describes the energy of a man for a rose (written from 1235, published according to Krämer 1236)
-- Part 2 by Jean de Meung describes love as a neutral tool for offspring, so that families have children and heirs (written 1275-1280)
-- Rudolf Krämer tacitly assumes that readers know that this “Rose Novel” consists of two contrasting parts that are completely contradictory].
Krämer:
Roger Bacon, however, had another much more popular disciple, the [Jesus Fantasy] cleric and poet Jean de Meung. At that time, the whole world read the “Rose Novel”, the first part of which (1236) was written by Guillaume de Lorris, 4000 verses of courtly love [Love songs (German: Minnesang) for a rose], and the sequel (1275-1280) by Jean de Meung in 18,000 verses in a completely different style [Love as a tool for bourgeois offspring].
The heartless logician Jean de Meung incites against women: Love is only for creating offspring - women are “useless horny women” - against virginity - incites against women's dreams+invents hallucinations+sleepwalking - Mother Nature is the cause of everything and logic counts
Jean's work [the second volume describing love as a tool for offspring] was not only enthusiastically received by the uneducated popular readers of the 13th century, it was still being read in new editions well into the 16th century, and even more: it had an after-effect in the “Canterbury Tales” and in Shakespeare's eleventh sonnet. Even 100 years after the publication of the “Rose Novel”, Johann Gerson, the chancellor of the Sorbonne University [the first university in Paris], wrote an indignant rebuttal to Jean's attacks (1402).
Attacks on what? Jean de Meung mocked courtly love (German: Minne), as nature did not demand high love but copulation for the purpose of preserving the human race. The “useless horny women” were not good for anything else anyway. They were no good even in marriage [spreading lies around and also stealing]. So just never get married. The ideal of virginity was also unnatural and would lead to the extinction of mankind. Women were simply there to have children, in the arbitrary manner which nature was deciding: “all with all” (Toutes pour touz e touz pour toutes). Principally the force leading the world is nature itself. One can only laugh at the alleged night flight of women, which at best stems from dreams, hallucinations or sleepwalking. The speculation of [Jesus Fantasy] theologians and mendicant monks have no sense who blame all frightening natural phenomena on the influence of [Fantasy] devils and little devils buzzing around. Everything has natural causes. [S.147]
This is how Jean de Meung thought and wrote in the 13th century, at the same time of the heyday of [Jesus Fantasy] scholasticism! There are first beginnings of natural science, anti-philosophical didactics on all kinds of social issues, biting anti-clerical satire - the whole abstruse scholastic [Jesus Fantasy] edifice as a target. Abstruse, even if these [Jesus Fantasy] theologians refer to Aristotle and to the ancient Jewish scriptures.
Jesus fantasy Mr. Thomas Aquinas making propaganda against women
The Jesus Fantasy Thomas Aquinas claims: women = failed men
So, what should one think about the doctrine of [Jesus Fantasy] Thomas Aquinas? He is claiming - citing these authorities - that women shall be "uncomplete men" (femina mas occasionatus). How that?
Jesus Fantasy Thomas Aquinas claims: birth of girls = defective sperm, uterine blood or moist south winds
[The insane Jesus Fantasy Thomas Aquinas is said to have claimed that women are born through a “defect” and only men are born “perfect”].
Mr. Joachim Bumke (Germanist and medieval historian 1929-2011 [web04]) makes a summery of Thomas' reasons:
“Actually, a man should always produce male children, because every cause of action produces something similar to it. Girls were only conceived when 'adverse circumstances' (occasiones) intervened at conception (when the sperm or uterine blood was defective or when damp southerly winds caused children with a higher water content to be born).” *
* Joachim Bumke: Courtly culture. Literature and Society in the High Middle Ages (orig. German: Höfische Kultur. Literatur und Gesellschaft im hohen Mittelalter); Munich 1986, vol. II, page 456 ff. There you will find a comprehensive compilation of relevant Thomas quotations in German and Latin with precise source references.
The Jesus Fantasy Thomas Aquinas claims: Women are always only the “helpmate” of men - in “second place” - more seducible
Moreover, the woman was only created in second place and only as a “helper” to the man and is therefore of lesser quality. “Mulier naturaliter est minoris virtutis et dignitatis quam vir": Woman is by nature inferior to man in virtue and dignity. Even in paradise, she was more seductive than man.
Mr. Ernst Robert Curtius warns of “free love”
I mentioned the indignation of Chancellor Gerson [of the Sorbonne University in Paris] from the beginning of the 15th century. Now let's look at the indignation of Ernst Robert Curtius from the middle of the 20th century (literary scholar and Romanist 1886-1956, at the University of Heidelberg, Germany [web05]). He writes in "European Literature and Latin Middle Ages" (orig. German: “Europäische Literatur und lateinisches Mittelalter”) (2-1954, page 135 f) [p.148]:
Curtius has psychological problems: he incites against “horny promiscuity” - against “obscene” - against “eroticism” - against “migrant youth” - against “lasciviousness” - against “libertinage” (permissiveness) - [but as it seems, he is not suggesting natural medicine as a protection of venereal diseases]
[Quote]:
"We see courtly love (German: Minne) with Guillaume de Lorris, But now there are warnings from love. Nature only wants children. Eros came and sexus left [Ed.: ...] Nature is a goddess and now is servent of horny promiscuity, and love life has converted into obscene life. Innocent playing erotic of Latin Humanism, storming fight of migrant youth has created a sexual enlightenment. Now new recipes are created consisting in high society ornaments and middle class lasciviousness. How was that possible? This corresponded to libertinage [permissiveness] of an epoch which was converting the heir of antique beauty into an academic investigation of terms. Because in 1250 about in the Paris university circles, there was a heretic [Jesus Fantasy] scholasticism of love life which seems to have been twinned with Averroism."
[The philosophy of the Arab philosopher Averroes: everyone has the same intellect, the soul is mortal, the universe is infinite, life is governed by reason and world events are predetermined [web06]].
Jesus Fantasy Thomas Aquinas makes propaganda against love feelings - love is only there for producing children, which is “more divine” than the “good of the individual being”
[Quote - continuing]:
"In his work 'Summa contra gentiles', [Jesus Fantasy] Thomas Aquinas made a joke against [scholasticism of Paris Sorbonne University]: 'Certain confused human beings spoke against the precious element of sexual modstness [Ed.: ...] Because the connection between man and woman is ordered for a good life of the species. But this is more devine than the good life of a singular being [Ed.: ...] The devine order is that humans have sexual organs for creating offspring [Ed.: ...] And there is the order of [Fantasy] lord for the parents: be fertile, have children and fill the Earth.' - Mr. Jean de Meung is an expert in literature, not a philosopher; but he shares the atmosphere of the mentality that thomas has contradicted, so he is not just a lonely man in this topic. There are many heresies [belief variants], and also the one of whom he is a speaker, was hit by a punishment edict of [Jesus Fantasy] bishop Etienne Tempier of Paris (March 7, 1277). But it remained popular."
took aim at it [the scholasticism of the Sorbonne] in his 'Summa contra gentiles': 'Certain men, confused in their minds, have spoken against the good of sexual moderation [Ed.: ...] For the union of man and woman is ordered for the good of the species. But this is more divine than the good of the individual being [Ed.: ...] By divine order procreative organs are conferred on man [Ed.: ...] To this may be added the commandment of the [Fantasy] Lord to the progenitors: 'Be fruitful and multiply and replenish the earth.' - Jean de Meung is a man of letters, not a philosopher; but he shares the atmosphere of the direction refuted by Thomas, so he is by no means a strange loner. Among many other heresies [variants of faith], the one of which he is the spokesman was also hit by the condemnation decree of the [Jesus Fantasy] Bishop Etienne Tempier of Paris (March 7, 1277). This, however, did not affect its popularity.”
[End of the quote]
One reads this with astonishment at the end of the 20th century. Curtius' bourgeois morality is still on Gerson's track; Thomas Aquinas is still cited as a reasonable authority [p.149], and the references to some sources of the “Rose Novel”, to the contemporary “libertinage” and to the “peppery home cooking” are considered sufficient relativization of the cultural-historical event.
Educated people of the 20th century are not arguing about the stucken doctrine and obtuseness of the great scholastic man concerning minority of women, serfdom of the Jews and pact with the devil, but about the man Mr. de Meung of the middle of the 13th century having the courage and the common sense to make a big joke about stucken spirit of [Jesus Fantasy] scholasticism with biting irony.
Jean de Meung claims a “sex drive” - further facts of the criminal church against women
The heartless logician Jean de Meung invents a “sex drive” and loves “Goddess Natura”
The fact that nature incites people to indiscriminately satisfy their powerful sex drive was also cited by Mr. Curtius. And even more he cited that in the novel exists goddess Nature suggesting this liberty of choice, and that it would be a nonsense to deny this reality. Jean de Meung makes jokes about the natural force of sex drive provoking that the reader is getting aware of it. It's not more than that. Mr. Curtius is only an amusement being satisfied with Thomas who had "refuted" goddess Nature of Jeans. Good refutation, banalities like: [Fantasy] god "has given reproduction organs to the humans."
Male society of criminal Jesus Fantasy Church: disregard women, disrespect women - raped women are guilty of being raped
Curtius could at most have been surprised at Jean's contempt for women, which was not inferior to the contempt for women of the [Jesus Fantasy] Church. And the expert on the Latin Middle Ages [when the writers of the Jesus Fantasy Church invented the Roman Empire etc. with forged Latin documents] would have had to say that the disregard and disrespect for women was a characteristic of that absolute male society, which the Church should actually have contradicted, but which it endorsed without objection. In this male society, for example, prostitution was “ultimately regarded as the only way for the raped girl to atone for her [p.150] lust” (Georges Duby, Guy Lardreau: History of historic cience (orig. German: Geschichte und Geschichtswissenschaft); Frankfurt 1982, p.57)
In the penitential book of Alanus ab Insulis, “the confessor gets the order to ask whether the woman with whom the sin was committed was beautiful; if so, the fine was reduced”. (Duby: Ritter..., page 304)
Rudolf Krämer: Criminal Jesus Fantasy Church claimed that women had no soul until the 11th century
Yet in the 11th century it was still disputed whether women had a soul at all. [S.151]
Jean de Meung against women: is a model for even more agitation against women
Heartless logician Mr. Jean de Meung in the “Rose Novel” incites against women (1280) - and successors take him seriously + incite even more against women
[because women lie often around and steal].
But even the topos [worn-out words] of the uselessness of “horny women” does not serve the author of the “Rose Novel” [second part from 1280] to confirm a Church doctrine, but to dismantle unnatural courtly love (German: Minne). However, later the lectors only read the novel without knowing about the reference to innatural courtly love, and they understand the novel in general, and this has bad evil consequences; some witch masters also referred to the “Rose Novel”. [S.151]
Heartless logician Jean de Meung has eliminated the scholastic fantasies - criminal Jesus Fantasy Church: sex is supposed to be “vicious+disgusting” and women who are not virgins before marriage are considered a “sow”
The unsurpassable greatness of Jean de Meung lies in his astonishingly fearless and aggressive criticism of [Jesus Fantasy] scholastic fantasies. He is the shining proof of the clear mind not only of “popular” thinking and writing”, but also of the clear mind of the ‘uneducated’ people themselves, despised for their lack of knowledge of Latin; see the enduring popularity of the ‘Rose Novel’. Curtus' investigation should have gone in this direction instead of exhausting itself in anachronistic protests. The point remains that the deadly abstrusities of [Jesus Fantasy] theology cannot be attributed to the age and its supposedly irrational mindset. Because the age and its way of thinking had a completely natural, daylight attitude not respecting high class the pseudo-scholarly do-it-yourself work. Only above [in the upper class in the priest-cardinal-pope stratum of the criminal Church] was reigning dark night, where the philosophers, [Jesus Fantasy] theologians and [Jesus Fantasy] saints hovered and where the sexual act was “vicious and disgusting” and where the woman could should all be virgin brides [of Fantasy] Christ for not being rated as a sow. [p.151]
It is important to see that we are not talking about late scholasticism, to which ecclesiastical apologetics so readily retreats, but about pure, angelic high scholasticism. There was never a lack of criticism, which [Jesus Fantasy] Thomas always was correcting angrily. There was always criticism, even during the worst orgies of the later witch burnings. But the scholastic logicians triumphed in connection with the [Jesus Fantasy] popes; and as long as the [Jesus Fantasy] Church held power, the inquisitors could win always against the critics.
[Supplement: Why the upper class was stuck in the Jesus Fantasy doctrine spreading the blocking of free love? They are gay
Because the upper class of Church is GAY and they had to hide this - and they had infections, pains during walking, open hole, diapers, also raping children in the cellars of the castles and cathedrals, and they could never speak freely because of this big secret - that's why the elite of the world is stiff until today concerning love. Women never know if an elite man is bi or in reality gay. They notice it when they get fungal infections on the vagina or canker sores in their mouth. Then the probability is relatively high. And then the hart gets blocked..]
Carcassonne+Toulouse (France) 1275: 2 women burned to death because for defamation having dealt with the Fantasy devil
When the second part of the “Rose Novel” was being written, a woman was burned to death in Carcassonne [France] - for sexual activity with the [Fantasy] devil.
[This was probably because of defamation].
In the same year of 1275, the trial of Angela de la Barthe took place in Toulouse for carnal intercourse with the [Fantasy] devil and the creation of a child-eating [Fantasy] monster. [S.152]
[This was probably because of defamation].
France 1310: Templars are burned for defamation having dealt with the Fantasy devil
And soon afterwards, in 1310, the same fate befell the wealthy Templar Order [they are gays and one of the strongest Vatican groups, later Illuminati]; here too, the argument of sexual activity (fornication) with the [Fantasy] devil was used so that King Philip the Fair could enrith himself after the fiery (fire) death of the knights. Two suitable geniuses had come together, the beautiful Philip and his [Jesus Fantasy] Pope Clement V in Avignon. [S.152]
[Templars took their flight to Scotland for waiting another opportunity for crusades - in "America" from 1492 on].
The demon question: Turning people into animals? Carry people through the air?
We return now to Doctor angelicus [Thomas Aquinas]. Can demons convert people into animals? Can they carry people through the air? These two popular ideas were rejected as nonsense in the Canon Episcopi which was incorporated in the Decretals. Persons believing in this was rated criminal (liable to prosecution) under canon law. Thomas had not the courage to say something with his logic intelligence. But demons can do everything that is natural, while the good angels, with [Fantasy] God's help, can even move the planets [in a dream], just think!
In other words, the natural for the evil demons. In his “Treatise on [the Fantasy] Hiob” ("Abhandlung über [den Fantasie]-Hiob"), [the Jesus Fantasy] Thomas [Aquinas] writes:
"Respect this: Any of the mentioned bad things [p.152] is caused by [Fantasy] Satan. So one has to admit that the demons provoke perturbations in the air with the permission of [the Fantasy] god. Wind is strong, Fire comes from the sky, they can do this. Body material is not following at any rate to orders for a conversion, neither to the order of the good nor to the bad angles, but only to the order of [Fantasy] god of creation. Corporal nautre is made in that kind that it obeys to the local movement of mental nautre, and the proof is the human; because movements come from the order of the will. Anylocal movement therefore is made by natural capacity no only by good ghosts, but also by bad ghosts, it if's not blocked by a divine decision. But wind and rain and other air disturbances can provoke steam, and this steam can be made by the natural ability of the demon."
The demon question: Rapturing people?
The next stage of flying around is the rapture. We know that Augustine was of the opinion that the demon had raptured Iphigenia with body and soul and had put an animal body in her place. He was also convinced that a sleeping person sometimes leaves a kind of astral body (Augustine calls it “phantasticum”), which is visibly engaged in some kind of activity. After all, there exists the rapture of [Fantasy] Paul “into the third heaven, whether in the body, I do not know, whether outside the body, I do not know, [Fantasy] God knows” (2 [Fantasy]-Cor [Corinthians] 12:2). Thomas speaks of many different interpretations and then comes to the statement that what [Fantasy] Paul did not know about himself must remain open. The possibility of the bodily elevation above the ground thus remained open. [S.153]
The devil question: The Fantasy devil raptures the Fantasy Jesus? And the Fantasy Jesus is supposed to be invisible and not calling for help?
[This is now all just totally crazy, what comes next].
And then there was the rapture [of the Fantasy] Jesus by the [Fantasy] Satan, a tough nut to crack! The [Fantasy] Satan abducts [the Fantasy] Jesus from the desert to the battlements of the temple [in Jerusalem] and from there to a very high mountain. What now? The [Fantasy Jesus] Church didn't think about it later. The [Fantasy] Jesus was just carried through the air, “deo permittente”, with [the Fantasy] God's permission by the [Fantasy] Satan. Thomas was not accepting this for a long ties, alghough having respect to any ecclesiastical text. There was Canon Episcopi. So he decided the question:
“How he lead him away: they say that he took him upon him and carried him away, others (and better) that he made him go by persuasion, and [the Fantasy] Christ went to Jerusalem from the disposition of his wisdom [...] But the people did not see him, when the [Fantasy] devil carried [the Fantasy] Christ? According to those who teach that he carried him, it is to be said that [the Fantasy] Jesus in his power arranged it so that he was invisible.”
This is how [the Jesus Fantasy] Thomas got out of the affair. Not by logical consistency, as one can see the different thoughts, but by respect of canon law principles (which were applied acording to ecclesiastical tradition of course: when [the Fantasy] devil canot carry women through the air, because this is not natural life, then he cannot carry a [Fantasy] Jesus through the air. Only where the field was free for thinking, he was developing his logic intelligence, as we have seen with the tapped semen from the demons having bumbum with women (succumbes conversion giving semen from other men to women [web08]).
That witches fly through the night air like nothing was taught by the later [Jesus Fantasy] scholastics; therefore, the Doctor angelicus [Thomas Aquinas] had nothing to do with that. [S.154]
All these crimes of the criminal Church were committed in the name of a Fantasy Jesus and a Fantasy god - and they were alcoholics!
This alcohol-corpse Church is supposed to go to HELL. Church is a CRIMINAL ORGANIZATION. M.P, June 21, 2023 / March 26, 2025
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Sources
[web01] Sentenz: https://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sentenz
[web02] Succubus: https://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Succubus
[web03] Incubus: https://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Incubus_(Dämon)
[web04] Joachim Bumke: https://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Joachim_Bumke
[web05] Curtius: https://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ernst_Robert_Curtius
[web06] Averroies mit Averroismus: https://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Averroismus
[web07] Der Rosenroman: https://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rosenroman
[web08] Sukkubus: https://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sukkubus_–_Den_Teufel_im_Leib
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