6.1. The construction of a large church
"temple cathedral" of parts of ruins
[The Temple Mount and its ruins]
East of the Old City of Jerusalem is a rocky plateau
of about 300 by 450 meters, on which next to a few
small buildings only the al-Aqsa Mosque and the Dome
of the Rock are located. Most of the area is empty. In
the 7th century, the area was a single rubble field:
there were remains of the Herodian temple, remains of
a Jupiter temple, remains of a thousand years of
religious use. Nevertheless, this inhospitable place
was associated with religious emotions like no other:
Rumors say that Abraham was here being ready to
sacrifice his son Isaac to God, and here stood the
Temple of Solomon.
[The inscription means that Imam al-Mamun built the
Dome of the Rock]
According to his inscription, the "Dome of the Rock"
was completed in 72 AD: "This sanctuary was built by
the Servant of God, Imam al-Mamun, Supreme Protector,
in the year 72. May God accept and take pleasure in
him, Amen. Kings of the world, praise God."
[The year of construction: solar calendar and lunar
calendar]
According to the then common era "kata Araba", the
year 72 corresponds to the year 694. However, other
dates are also mentioned. These were the result of the
calculations from the Hijra period [[the invented
emigration of the invented Muhammad to Medina]], which
is based on a lunar calendar and has corresponding
inaccuracies.
Dome of the Rock in Jerusalem (al-Aqsa Mosque) [1] -
part of the scripture of the Dome of the Rock
[2]
[Imam al-Mamun or somebody else replaced the
builder Abd al-Malik with al-Mamun]
It is undisputed that Mamun was not the builder.
Rather, more than 100 years after the construction, he
let remove the real name of the builder, Abd al-Malik,
replacing it by his own name. The year of construction
remained the same [42].
[42] Maybe the change is not
from Mamun himself, but was made later.
The builder, therefore, was Abd al-Malik, and he
completed his project in 694 [AD. respectively. 72
Islamic period]]. [p.99]
[The Square of the Solomonic Temple]
The choice of the place was clear: the exact place of
Solomon's temple.
[Architectural style: Syriac-Byzantine church
architecture]
The architectural style represents the typical
Syrian-Byzantine church architecture. The basic
structure is a cylinder resting on columns,
single-stored or, depending on the height, another
column walk. The cylinder is arched over with a dome,
to come if necessary further extensions. In the case
of the Dome of the Rock, the cylinder encloses a piece
of bare rock, which was probably considered the rock
of the Isaac sacrifice. This core is surrounded on the
outside by two columns, which define the octagonal
floor plan of the building.
[The Square of the Solomonic Temple]
The place of choice: the exact place of Solomon's
temple.
[Architectural style: Syriac-Byzantine church
architecture]
The architectural style represents the typical
Syrian-Byzantine church architecture. The basic
structure is a cylinder on columns, single-stored or,
depending on the height, being connected with another
circular corridor of columns. The cylinder is over a
dome, and if necessary there are further extension
buildings. The rock of the Isaac sacrifice is in the
case of the Dome of the Rock. This core is surrounded
by two columns, which define the octagonal floor plan
of the building.
[Columns in different antique styles - apparently
ruins were used]
The columns are executed in different styles of the
Antique and sometimes they are even of different
length. This means that they are second hand columns
from ruins. Originally the building should have been
open. The believers were in the large area around the
building and could follow the ceremonies from there,
because on certain occasions the crowd of visitors
must have been very large, such as the annual
pilgrimage.
6.2. The octagon and the numerology of
"perfection"
[Octagonal churches like the Dome of the Rock -
examples]
The cathedral is not an architectural original design,
but is based on numerous existing buildings of before.
There is the Church of the Resurrection on the Mount
of Olives, the Church of Mary Theotokos on Mount
Garazim near Nablus, the Church Kathisma ("seat") of
the Virgin near Jerusalem (also built around a stone),
a church in Busra, Syria, others in Caesarea and in
Capernaum on the Sea of Galilee, presumably on the
site of the house of [[fantasy Saint]] Peter.
This church type spread to Italy (San Vitale in
Ravenna) and even Spain (Las Vegas de Pueblanueva).
The church of Sergius and Bacchus in Istanbul ("Little
Hagia Sophia"), which should have been model for the
great Hagia Sophia, is built in this style.
It is therefore a familiar type in the Roman-Byzantine
world. All of these churches were built between the
3rd and 6th centuries, they share the same
architectural elements, and, like the Dome of the
Rock, they have an octagonal plan.
[Octagon: Mysticism of numbers - fantasy
Resurrection - 8th fantasy Day of Creation of
Perfection]
The octagon comes from the religious mysticism of
numbers symbolizing the resurrection of Jesus on the
day after the Sabbath, as the eighth day of creation
completing the creation. The Eight, therefore, was the
number of perfection in medieval [p.100] theology.
Accordingly, the believers under this symbol were on
the way to perfection.
[Octagon: Palatine Chapel in the town of Aachen,
Germany]
Precisely the same octagonal basic structure with a
dome-crowned cylinder above it has the Palatine Chapel
of [[fantasy]] Emperor Charlemagne in the town of
Aachen (Germany from the year 790. Both rulers, Abd
al-Malik as Charlemagne, saw themselves in the style
of early medieval Christian ruler as the successor of
David representing Christ. Even though the master
builder of the Palatine Chapel, with the almost
identical church of San Vitale in Ravenna, had a
closer study object at his disposal, the Dome of the
Rock must have been known to him, because he built the
chapel as an "image of the Heavenly Jerusalem".
Octagon Palatine Chapel in the
town of Aachen in Germany [3]
Supplement: NO
Charlemagne - and the Jesus Fantasy
Christian calendar is 1000 years too
long
According to new research, however,
Charlemagne is also an invention, and the
entire "Christian" chronology is 300
years, if not 1000 years too long. See
Illig: Who shot the clock? (original
German: Wer hat an der Uhr gedreht?) - But
at least the neo classic chappel exists. |
6.3. The Dome of the Rock Church for
the "true faith" of the Arab-Christian ruler Abd
al-Malik
[Dome of the Rock was built for Arab Christians -
it's a church]
In Islamic doctrine says that the Islamic Caliph and
Omayade Abd al-Malik built the Dome of the Rock as a
mosque. The latest research, however, sees Abd
al-Malik as a Christian-Arab ruler and the Dome of the
Rock [S.101] accordingly is a Christian sacred
building. Oleg Grabar [43]
[43] Oleg Grabar: The Dome of
the Rock; London 2006
one of the best experts of the Dome of the Rock,
excludes that the original purpose of this building
was a mosque but considers it as "a kind of sacred
building". He speaks of a "paradox" because
contradictions concerning the interpretation as an
Islamic building could not be resolved. They dissolve
considering this Dome of the Rock as a Christian
building.
[Abd al-Malik's Dome of the Rock for the "true
faith" with the creed of the Byzantine imperial
church with a 240m long scripture]
Jerusalem is then, as it is today, a city of churches.
But from the viewpoint of Abd al-Malik these churches
were all of "the wrong belief". He wanted him, who, as
evidenced, saw himself in the true tradition of Zion,
a monument of the true faith, a "haram," to oppose in
a spectacular place, on the Temple Mount.
He answered with his own view of the right faith to
the ecthesis, to the creed of the Byzantine imperial
church which was installed in the Hagia Sophia church
with Trinity. Traditional doctrine says that this text
in the Dome of the Rock would be Quran verses, but
modern science considers this 240m long scripture
which is on both sides of the octagon a clear
Christian Arab confession of monarchical orientation.
6.4. Islam invents a fantasy Muhammad
in Jerusalem - Crusades - Islam time
[since the 11th century: Islam is re-interpreting all
for itself: Muhammad's flying horse, signpost to Mecca
etc.]
With the establishment of Islam [[on the Arab
Peninsula]], the meaning of "haram" on the Temple
Mount diminished and was less important than Mecca and
Medina. Nevertheless, Islamic legends began to connect
with Jerusalem. In the 11th century, the telling
tradition arose that [[fantasy]] Muhammad had started
from the place of the Dome of the Rock ascending with
his horse "buraq" with a human head and the wings to
the sky. [[This is a speaking spaceship with a
speaking voice]]. Probably also in the 11th century,
the "haram" received the obligatory "mihrab", in this
case this was a plate indicating the direction to
Mecca. However, the "mihrab" was not placed in the
mosque itself, but in a cave below. So far there is no
satisfactory explanation for this.
[Crusades: Dome of the Rock and Church of the Holy
Sepulcher]
For the Crusaders, the building was simply the "Temple
of God" (templum domini), which was associated with
Old Testament memories designating a place where Jesus
also had worked. The cathedrals was not perceived as
an original mosque, it but the belief was considering
the building as an origin temple from the time of
[[fantasy]] Christ. The Crusaders had [p.102] only
little influence, the second rock of Jerusalem,
Golgotha with the Holy Sepulcher, had a higher
significance.
[Islam since 1291: renovations, exterior facades]
Among the Ayyubids, who replaced the Crusaders, the
Dome of the Rock became an Islamic sanctuary. Little
has changed with it in the following years among the
Fatimids and Mamluk, some renovations were carried
out, but there was no structural change. In the Mamluk
period, it was believed according to a common legend
that the Crusaders had built the cathedral to tame the
rock under it. Under the Ottomans, especially under
Suleiman the Magnificent (1520-1566), major
transformations took place. So the Sultan completely
replaced the outside facade and put the tiles. Also
inside, many elaborations were made, but the substance
did not change.
From 1875 to 1960, nothing happened at all. Between
1960 and 1962, all tiles were removed from the Ottoman
period and new ones were attached, and in 1990, a
further transformation was performed.
Just as the Dome of the Rock presents itself today, it
is a work of the 20th century. We do not know to what
extent this appearance corresponds to the original
shape. Probably not very much. However, the basic
structure and the only surviving part from the time of
Malik have not been changed: the pillars with the
mosaic-covered support structure on which runs the
original script tape - the creed of Abd al-Malik.
[Dome of the Rock = Church - al-Aqsa Mosque =
Mosque]
The Dome of the Rock was certainly not built as a
mosque but as a church. But not as a church for
everyday life, but rather as the central point of
Christian-Arab religiosity, the Dome of the Rock
referred to the place where the Savior would descend.
Even in the time of Islamic rule, the cathedral was
not perceived as a prayer house. Provided with many
secrets and myths, the "Haram al-Sharif" was primarily
the place of the ascension of Muhammad. The general
prayer site was always opposite the al-Aqsa mosque.
Until recently, tourists were shown the true location
of the [[fantasy]] cradle of [[fantasy]] Jesus (namely
in the southeast corner of the area) and told them
more secrets from the biblical and Christian past of
the place - this is now prohibited.
[since 1995: Dome of the Rock is used as a
mosque]
For about a decade [since the 1995 Intifada against
Sharon's criminal Zionist regime], the Dome of the
Rock is what he has never been in its history: an
active mosque. And it became the symbol of Palestinian
nationalism [p.103].
Intifada in Jerusalem,
Palestinians against Zionists [4]
Opinions
Opinion 1. The Dome of the Rock on
April 26, 2024: is a Nestorian church of the
"Unitarian East Syriac Church"
by Civitas: https://t.me/standpunktgequake/141269
Translation with Translation.eu:
"The Dome of the Rock has nothing to do with the
al-Aqsa Mosque! These are 2 different buildings. The
Dome of the Rock is also not a Greek church, but a
Nestorian place of worship of the Unitarian East
Syriac Church (teaching: Jesus is not the Son of God,
but the Son of Mary)! The octagon floor plan was
copied from an older church at the time (the Kathisma
Church) in Palestine, so it is not the first church
with this floor plan. The Dome of the Rock was a kind
of "antagonistic building" to the Hagia Sophia in
Constantinople. Please always use the terms precisely,
otherwise false statements can spread more and more."
Opinion 2. Mossad Wikipedia on April
27, 2024: The Dome of the Rock is an ancient
Byzantine octagon church - and there are more of
them
https://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Felsendom
Translation with Translator.eu+Deepl:
There's not even a minaret...
Thesis: Dome of the Rock = ancient Byzantine church
with octagon
"The overall architectural concept is similar to the
church of San Vitale in Ravenna, built between 525 and
547, and the rotunda in the Church of the Holy
Sepulchre, built around 348 under Constantinus, in
Jerusalem."
"The Scottish architect James Fergusson
(1808–1886)[35] and the German church historian Johann
Nepomuk Sepp (1816–1909)[36] assumed at the time that
the Dome of the Rock was originally built as a church
by either Flavius Valerius Constantinus or Justinian
I. J. N. Sepp transferred the building and foundation
inscription, dated to the reign of ʿAbd al-Malik b.
Marwāns, in Kufic style to the time of Saladin."
Similar buildings: Ancient churches with octagons:
The Kathisma Church between Jerusalem and Bethlehem
“According to the current state of research, it is
assumed and now confirmed by further archaeological
finds that the Dome of the Rock in its overall concept
is not an Umayyad innovation, but must be counted
among the group of other local Byzantine
memorials.[114] After the uncovering and architectural
recording of the remains of the so-called Kathisma
Church on the old route between Jerusalem and
Bethlehem, a church built around 456 at the time of
St. Theodosios, another architectural precursor of the
Dome of the Rock has been identified. The Kathisma
Church is also octagonal and at its center stands a
rock where, according to apocryphal Christian
tradition, Mary, plagued by birth pangs on the way to
Bethlehem, rested and drew new strength from the fruit
and sap of a palm tree. A palm tree with fruit has
been uncovered in the mosaic floor. As the episode is
also taken up in the Koran (Sura 19, verses 23-26),
the church was already visited as a pilgrimage site by
both Christians and Muslims in the early 8th century;
the extension of the octagon with a Miḥrāb dates back
to this time.[115]”
"Crusades": The murderous "Christians" are said to
have installed a golden cross on the dome of the
Dome of the Rock
"After the conquest of Jerusalem in 1099, the
Crusaders took possession of the Dome of the Rock: it
became Templum Domini – the church of the Crusaders. A
marble altar was placed on the rock, and a golden
cross was placed on the top of the dome. [45]"
Similar buildings: St. Mary's Church in Aachen (in
octagon / octagon) is a replica of the Dome of the
Rock church in Jerusalem (in octagon / octagon)
"In many respects, the Dome of the Rock served as a
structural model for Aachen's St. Mary's Church
(German: Marienkirche), which was completed before
813. [116] "
More Jesus fantasy octagon churches
More Jesus fantasy octagon churches on
May 2, 2024: The Jesus Fantasy Octogon Church on
Maui (Hawaii) in Kula from 1895
by Michael Palomino NEVER VACCINATE+ALWAYS PAY CASH -
May 2, 2024
https://onlyinhawaii.org/church-of-the-holy-ghost-kula-hawaii/
The [Jesus fantasy] Church of the Holy [fantasy]
Ghost, also known as Holy Ghost Mission, is an
octagonal Roman Catholic [Jesus fantasy] church
building perched on a hill in Waiakoa in the Kula
district of Maui, Hawaii. It was designed by [Jesus
fantasy] Father James Beissel and built in 1894 by
Portuguese workers and farmers who moved to Maui to
work on the sugar cane plantations. The first [Jesus
fantasy] mass was celebrated in it in 1895 and
officially dedicated by [Jesus fantasy] Bishop Ropert
Gulstan of Honolulu 1899.
The Jesus Fantasy Octagon Church on Maui (Hawaii) in
Kula from 1895 [9]
More Jesus Fantasy Octagon Churches on
May 2, 2024: The Jesus Fantasy Octagon Church of
Eunate (Navarra Province, Spain), 12th century
https://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Santa_María_de_Eunate
Translation with Bing translator:
"The church is located in an open field, without any
direct connection to a settlement, a few kilometers
from the market town of Muruzábal (
link)
and east of Queen Bridge (Puente la Reina -
link)."
12th Century Octagon Church at Eunate - Knights
Templar
https://www.flickr.com/photos/dalecalder2003/2637971972/
The Jesus Fantasy Octagon Church of Eunate (Navarra
Province, Spain), 12th century [10]
More Jesus fantasy churches on May 2,
2024: Jesus fantasy octagon chappel in Norwich
(England) from 1550 appr.
https://norwich360.com/octagonchapel.html
This [Jesus Fantasy] octagon chapel is in the Colegate
district in Norwich just across the Wensum river.
Before this area was known as Norwich Over The Water.
Before this was the [Jesus fantasy] church of St
[fantasy] John the Baptist which was closed in 1226
and given to the [Jesus fantasy] black monks of London
(Blackfriars). They used it since as a chapel and home
for loney ones (hermitage) until it was demolished and
rebuilt in the mid-sixteenth century [1550 appr.].

Jesus fantasy octagon chappel in Norwich (England)
from 1550 appr. [11] - interior view [12]
Opinion 04: The solution for the
Temple Mount
Circular e-mail on May 1, 2024:
SOLUTION for the TEMPLE MOUNT: Relocate the old
church + build the temple
Translation with Translator.eu and Deepl:
Hello, today it's the turn of the Temple Mount with
the peace solution:
![SOLUTION for the TEMPLE MOUNT: Relocate
the old church + build the temple [13]
"Solution for the Temple Mount: There is 1
old church - relocate the church+build the
Jewish temple over the holy stone+sign human
rights." SOLUTION for the TEMPLE
MOUNT: Relocate the old church + build the
temple [13] "Solution for the Temple Mount:
There is 1 old church - relocate the
church+build the Jewish temple over the holy
stone+sign human rights."](../d/006-felsendom-d/013-ENGL-solution-for-Temple-Mount-relocate-old-church+build-tempel+sign-human-rights.jpg)
SOLUTION for the TEMPLE MOUNT: Relocate the old
church + build the temple [13]
"Solution for the Temple Mount: There is 1 old
church - relocate the church+build the Jewish temple
over the holy stone+sign human rights."
The solution for the Temple Mount: 1 old church stands
there - relocate the church+build a Jewish temple over
the holy stone+introduce human rights.
Details:
The ancient octagon church (Syrian-Byzantine church)
must be RELOCATED, 50m next to it or to another hill
where it is clearly visible. The church (Vatican) has
to pay for the relocation because the byzantine church
was INTENTIONALLY built over the Jewish stone where a
father was willing to sacrifice his son (without any
evidence).
Why didn't the religious find this solution?
Zionists are blind+war rabbis have not seen this
solution either. The Zionists are finished, need to be
banned for perpetual wars, are a criminal
organization. The rabbis who have agitated for war
against Muslims+claimed that war is legal are also
finished. Suspicion: gold speculation+armaments shares
at stock exchange!
Pastors and imams haven't seen this solution either?
Because the pastors are mental slaves of Israel and
the imams have forgotten that the church on the Temple
Mount has no minaret. It is NOT a mosque. But minarets
can be added if it is relocated in a different
location.
Future
-- the church should be moved, to where? This has to
decide the church -
50m next to it or build a
new one on another hill, because it has to
be moved away in any case, because it is built in the
WRONG place, where the Jewish stone is
-- therefore it makes absolutely sense to build a
Jewish temple over the holy stone, when one wants to
follow the fantasies
-- the Temple Mount is
big enough for many
fantasy houses. The church after
relocation may also remain a church and a mosque can
be built on another hill.
Map
If human rights are SIGNED, you can try the 1919
mandate, which has never been tried with human rights,
but will be successful.
And Zionism is FINISHED because the Rothschild family
with all his Mossad spies and Antifa monkeys didn't
realize either that this is - what a surprise - it's a
church standing in the wrong place. It's not about
Muslims at all.
So that's my opinion with 32 years of history studies
+ analysis.
The rabbis didn't see this solution, and neither did
the pastors and imams, because one simply can't get
anywhere with the "holy books". That's why I don't
think much of the people who read these fantasy books
or are still missiologists, because these criminal
"holy" books only provoke mutual confrontations.
For solutions of problems NOT ONE SINGLE SHOT is
needed - but HEAD and Mother Earth, the GROUNDING.
And all the Bible readers, Koran readers, Torah
readers and Talmud readers have NEVER taken
archaeology earnest, although the book "The Bible
unearthed" has been available since 2004
Link: purchase:
https://www.amazon.com/-/de/dp/0684869136/

Book by Israel Finkelstein and Neil A. Silberman:
"The Bible Unearthed. Archeology's new vision of
ancient Israel and the origin of it's sacred texts"
(2002) [14]
which I presented in the Internet since 2006
http://www.relgaga.com/judentum-aktenlage/AT-aktenlage-index-ENGL.html
and the new research in the Koran with Aramaic instead
of Arabic has also been presented on the market and is
freely available since 2012,
Link: purchase:
https://www.amazon.de/s?k=good+bye+mohammed&crid=TPJ1HE3BWBHN&sprefix=good+bye+mohammed%2Caps%2C116&ref=nb_sb_noss_1

Book by Norbert G. Pressburg: "Good bye Mohammed.
The new vision of Islam" (orig. German: "Good bye
Mohammed. Das neue Bild des Islam!" (2012) [15]
which i translated presented in the Internet since
2015:
http://www.relgaga.com/islam/good-bye/index-ENGL-Pressburg_good-bye-Muhammad.html
Those who deny archaeology do not know much but
organize wars and mass murder without end.
Peace is with Mother Earth and certainly not in books
without an author, without a place and without a date.
So this church on the Temple Mount is in the wrong
place or in other words: the matter
is about
50m. Do we need wars because of this? NO.
Problems are there to be solved - without weapons and
without violence.
-- End the war immediately, remove the agitators
(including the rabbi agitators who have claimed that
war is legal and kill children, women and animals).
-- Find a place for the old church, start negotiations
between the church and Muslims as to whether the
Muslims will take over the church and how much it will
cost, the church has to pay for the relocation because
this old byzantine church was built by the church in
the wrong place.
-- build a news temple.
The Antifa monkey media don't read anything?
And all the Antifa monkeys in the media haven't
noticed all this - and the historians who are at the
universities have not the courage to say it because
otherwise they will immediately be rated as
"conspirators" by the IQ-ZERO media? These Antifa
monkeys in the media are just very, very destructive.
Suspicion: they are speculating with armament shares
at the stock exchange.
If one had followed the archaeology as I have
presented it since 2006 and 2015, there would NEVER
have been any war any more in the Middle East.
It seems that the elite is reading too little!
Have a nice day and best regards,
Michael Palomino NEVER VACCINATE+ALWAYS PAY CASH - May
2, 2024 - my 60th.
www.relgaga.com
Dome of the Rock June 19, 2024: MOVE
THIS CHURCH that is on top of the Jewish holy stone
by Michael Palomino - Juni 19, 2024
Dome of the Rock in Jerusalem [1]
This dome of the rock in Jerusalem from the year 300
B.C. appr. was purposely built on the Jewish holy
stone.
And this dome of the rock is a SIRIAN CHURCH in the
shape of an octagon. All what remains to do is to move
the church by 50m to the free side and peace will come
in Jerusalem. It is the CHRISTIANS who are the
criminals in this case and they DO NOT REALIZE it
because they do not read anything about archaeology.
ooo open our EYES!
And the Vatican with its trillions of drug money in
its Vatican bank and in the bank UBS AG etc. can pay
for this operation because they have enough money and
it is a CHURCH and NOT a mosque nor a synagogue. Move
the church on rails or dismantle it and rebuild it.
And then the place with the Jewish holy stone is free
to build a Jewish temple.
I do not know what the qualities of this holy stone
are... It's just a legend
22.6.2024: DOME of the ROCK = CHURCH
Dome of the Rock in Jerusalem [1]
The Dome of the Rock on the "Temple Mount" in
Jerusalem is a CHURCH and the Vatican has to move this
Dome of the Rock by 50m, then the holy Jewish stone is
free and Judaism can build the Temple over it
-- the pastors, imams and rabbis together with all the
"upper saints" in the fantasy buildings refuse the
archaeology and believe WRONGLY. In the case of the
Dome of the Rock on the Temple Mount, it is dramatic,
because
-- the CHURCH is the criminal on the Temple Mount and
NOT the Muslims, so the "Christians" have
INTENTIONALLY built the octagonal Dome of the Rock
(Syrian Church or Greek Church) over the holy Jewish
stone, and the "high Jews" always accuse the Muslims
FALSELY. And the Muslims always claim WRONGLY that
this would be of "Muslim architecture", it is not,
there is not even a minaret. So the conflict on the
Temple Mount can be resolved without one single shot,
if the "religious leaders" finally will see this.
So the Middle East conflict is actually resolved
without one single shot - but the non-thinkers in the
elite there are unfortunately too many and the
archaeologists do not have the courage to present the
truth for finally neutralizing the non-thinkers of the
elite - the archaeologists are weak.
Michael Palomino NEVER VACCINATE+ALWAYS PAY CASH
History - Sociology - Natural Medicine
June 22, 2024
www.hist-chron.com - www.relgaga.com
https://t.me/Ungeimpfte_Schweiz_kennenlernen/78433
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