Mentioned literature

-- Jacques Le Goff: The Birth of Purgatory (German: Die Geburt des Fegefeuers); 1984
-- Francis Bar: The ways of the other world (orig. French: Les routes de l'autre monde - Paris 1946)
-- Adolf Harnack: Geschichte der altchristlichen Literatur bis Eusebius (1893; Berlin 2. Aufl. Leipzig 1958)

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Content Chapter 7: Birth of purgatory [and stake / pyre] 7.1. Book by historian Jacques Le Goff: "The Birth of purgatory" (1984)   7.1.A. The "cleansing fire" until about 1170 - the word "purgatory" from about 1170 - the "fire judgment" ("purgatorium") 7.1.B. The inventors of Antiquity and the Middle Ages are using the Latin term "ignis purgatorius" 7.1.C. The chronology of the word "purgatory" - thesis 7.1.D. Ireland with Saint Patrick and "purgatory" 7.1.E. The Fantasy of "purgatory" provoked the split between the Western Church (Rome) and the Eastern Church (Byzantium) 7.1.F. Criminal Church invents "purgatory" as a "punishment for original sins" 7. 1. G. The tripartite divisions of the "Christian" world: Le Goff with heaven-hell refrigerium - and other tripartite divisions 7.1.H. purgatory and refrigerium are from the Indian KARMA thinking with "Book in Heaven" - relatives can save the sinners by paying (!) - Karma nonsense has NOTHING to do with "Christianity" - this came from India to Europe, mediated by the cr. Crusades 7.1.I. Investigation by Le Goff: The predecessors of "purgatory" - example of FAKE "Perpetua" 7. 1. J. The perpetual Fantasy was written 1000 years later, around 1200 7.1.K. The calendar jump by 1000 years - Portugal has REFUSED the calendar jump - data manipulation possible in the "Perpetua" from 203 to 1203 - lions are invented in an arena of 1200 - the FAKE biblical exegesis of Abelard with biblical exegesis: with a jump of 700 years 7.1.L. The invented characters Clement and Origenes - the idea of a "purgatory" from the Iranian text "Avesta" 7.2. Augustin [the analyses of the French historian Le Goff - the FAKE Augustin from Algeria is said to be the "father of purgatory" idea - but this does not work] 7.2.1. The introduction of "purgatory" in the Catholic Church from the 12th century onwards - Book by Le Goff "The Birth of purgatory" (1984) - introduced in the Catholic Church from the 12th to the 15th century - Pyre = "real purgatory" 7.2.2. Le Goff on the FAKE "Book of Enoch" - contradictions and arbitrary epochs 7.2.3. Le Goff on the 4th FAKE "Book of Ezra" 7.2.4. Le Goff on Fantasy "apocalypse" FAKES 7.2.5. Le Goff shows how FAKE texts are written and then attributed to the wrong people [this is how they can be sold at a higher price] 7.2.6. Saint Augustine of Hippo (now Algeria) with a FAKE text "De vera et falsa poenitentia" ("About true and false punishments") 7. 2. 7. Pictures with "purgatory" 7.2.8. Resistance to the idea of "purgatory" 7.2.9. FAKE Maccabees book with FAKE "purgatory" - was probably written from the 12th century or only in the Renaissance 7.2.10. Historian Le Goff on "Father Augustine" of Hippo (today Algeria): is supposed to be "father of purgatory" - not because of the gap between the 5th + 12th century - a development standstill and 3 bishops are INVENTED 7.3. Rear projection [WHO invented the delusional idea of "purgatory"? - the poetry from 0 to 1200] 7.3.1. The belief in a "rebirth" is replaced in the Catholic Church by "purgatory" - with the "ultimate goal" of "immortality" - the monks simply claimed that the FAKE "purgatory" came from the FAKE Antiquity, which they themselves had INVENTED (!) 7.3.2. The cr. monks of the Vatican ARE INVENTING Antiquity+Middle Ages and INVENT an "Early Christianity" "Gnosis" that NEVER EXISTED 7.3.3. The FAKE Bede (Beda) of England with a FAKE Church story 7.3.3.A. England: The INVENTION of cross-connections: The FAKE Church history of the FAKE Beda Venerabilis from England (FAKE birth 672/673 near Wearmouth in Northumbria; FAKE death on May 26, 735) 7.3.3.B. England with FAKE Bede: further IMpossibilities in the FAKE Church history of FAKE Bede: Falconry and stimulating plants mentioned 7.3.4. The FAKE monks on the Reichenau Island in Lake Constance: Wetti and Walafried (Walahfrid) 7.3.4.A. Island of Reichenau in Lake Constance: more FAKE monks with FAKE agitation against sexuality: FAKE monk Wetti - FAKE monk Walafried - and the FAKE Charlemagne 7.3.4.B. Island of Reichenau in Lake Constance: The FAKE monk Walafried INVENTS the FAKE Pope Gregory the Great with a passion for an "End Times" scenario: Raids against Rome INVENTED - Tiber flood INVENTED - Plague INVENTED etc. 7.3.3.C. Island of Reichenau in Lake Constance: FAKE monk Walafried INVENTS "Benedict of Monte Cassino" - and installs the "base for purgatory" 7.4. St. Patrick [purgaroty visions from ill "Christians" - at the end also from a certain FAKE Patrick] 7.4.1. FAKE purgatory novel ov 1116 by FAKE Guibert von Nogent - contradictions and puzzle pieces 7.4.2.A. Other FAKE purgatory visions: of a FAKE monk Alberic of Settefrati - of 1 FAKE abbot in Monte Cassino - of 1 FAKE Peter Deacon - of two FAKE women: Perpetua and Felicitas 7.4.2.B. More FAKE purgatory visions: the FAKE Saint Anskar - with elements from the 12th century 7.4.2.C. More FAKE purgatory visions: of a Tnugdal of Ireland 7.4.2.D. Other FAKE purgatory visions: by a certain FAKE Patrick (a Jesus Fantasy missionary from Ireland, 5th century) - supposedly a "bestseller" (!) 7.4.3. WARNINGS about fakes 7.4.3.A. The warnings of Abaelard: forger workshop Monastery Saint-Denis near Paris (F) - the Jesus Fantasy church only exists since the 11th century - NO originals available - the manuscripts all come from the 13th and 14th centuries 7.4.4. The holy FAKE Augustine of Hippo 7.4.4.A. Further FAKE purgatory visions: the FAKE Augustine with the Fantasy Day of Judgment 7.4.4.B. Further FAKE purgatory visions: the FAKE Pope Gregory the Great with torture against "Shameful Acts" 7.4.4.C. The FAKE Augustine of Hippo is also attributed a FAKE treatise on intercessions and alms for the dead 7.4.5. The persecution of "Christians" by the Roman Catholic Church, who reject the FAKE purgatory - the "heretic" persecution starting from the 12th century 7.4.5.A. Church schism due to the Roman Fantasy "purgatory": persecution of the Passaginians - Albigensians - Waldensians - Paulicians (Publicans) 7.4.5.B. Church schism due to the Fantasy 'purgatory': the Byzantine Church breaks away - seat of Nicaea (Iznik) - the Council of Lyon 1274 makes the FAKE purgatory a FAKE Dogma - a propaganda book by Dante "Divine Comedy" makes the FAKE purgatory popular - Catholic Church terror prevails 7.4.6. Church schism due to the Fantasy "purgatory": The criminal purgatory Vatican is highly criminal against the Byzantine Church 7.4.6.A. Church schism due to the Fantasy "purgatory": the Catholic Church discriminates against the Byzantine Church - distorts its works (!) - adds FAKE reasons for "false statements" - declares inconvenient texts as a "FAKE" - splits one author into 3 authors 7.4.6.B: Church splits due to Fantasy "purgatory": The discrimination against Origenes - calling ancient council documents shall be FAKES - the era of forgery in the Church, however, begins only with the purgatory madness and the Inquisition (including the stake) - texts are attributed to FAKE authors 7.4.6.C. The FAKE council texts of Nicaea (official year 325) and Chalcedon (official year 451) were only written in the 16th century - old "Church Fathers" are degraded to "heretics" 7.5. The works of FAKE Dionysius Areopagita: a Sufi is faking a Greek 7.5.1. The contradictions with FAKE Dionysius of Athens 7.5.2. The authorship dispute over the FAKE Dionysius: WHO wrote it? - and a FAKE solar eclipse - and many Greek manuscripts - the author is likely a Sufi from Morocco - the FAKE works of the FAKE Dionysius of Athens were written in the 13th century

Chapter 7: The Birth of purgatory

7.1. Book by historian Jacques Le Goff: "The birth of [FAKE] purgatory" (1984)

7.1.A. The "cleansing fire" until about 1170 - the word "purgatory" from about 1170 - the "fire judgment" ("purgatorium")

-- Historian Mr. Jacques Le Goff (1924 to 2014 [web01]) wrote a book about "The birth of [FAKE] purgatory" (1984 [web01]), but with a blocked Jesus Fantasy "Catholic" perspective (p.133)

Book by historian De Goff: "The Birth of [Fantasy] purgatory" (orig. German: "Geburt des [Fantasie]-Fegefeuers") [chap 7 photo 1]

Topper quote:

"A famous historian, Mr. Jacques Le Goff, makes a great effort and writes a fundamental work in 1981 (partly based on the book by Mr. Francis Bar: "Die Wege der anderen Welt" (orig. Frz.: "Les routes de l'autre monde" - Paris 1946, p. 275) about the [Fantasy] birth of [Fantasy] purgatory (Lat.: purgatorium). He is presenting the [Fantasy] development of this [Fantasy] concept from a [Jesus Fantasy] Church perspective. But unfortunately, he cannot see the background, and worse, he has to follow his thesis that he fixed before beginning his analysis, so he has to make changes on the model again and again. As a believing [Jesus Fantasy] Catholic, he resists foreign [truther] ideas. Nevertheless, I will present his book here, for firstly, it represents the current state of research on this topic and has already been extensively used by the latest authors (like [the historian Ms.] Bodmann), and secondly, just his mistakes and distortions are the reason to see the real problem that he is concealing."

First of all, he formally states (p.12) that the noun " purgatory" did not exist before the 12th century, there was only the adjective purifying (purgatorius, -a, -m) fire. This precision was already known but in reality this distinction is not so harsh. Nevertheless, he comes with this distinction to the conclusion that the [Fantasy] purgatory came only to the West until around 1170 and thus represents a new theological [Fantasy] step. Where older [FAKE] texts already have the word [Fantasy] purgatory, LeGoff has to eliminate this as a copyist's error, "emendation" (modern correction) or fault dating of the manuscript.

The [Fantasy] word of "purgatory", however, was a very common [Fantasy] word of that time, without any theological background. It referred to a legally valid public judgment of [the Fantasy] God, usually in connection with [a Fantasy] fire (Greek: pyr, "fire"), and this should also be a medical [Fantasy] action, this is the [Fantasy] expulsion and [Fantasy] purification (purgare), and also used synonymously with purgamentum ("waste, rubbish", but also "apology", "atonement")." (p.133)

7.1.B. The inventors of Antiquity and of the Middle Ages are using the Latin term "ignis purgatorius"

"The texts of the so-called [Jesus Fantasy] Church fathers, who supposedly speak of it already in late [Fantasy] Antiquity, mostly use [the Latin word] "ignis (p.133) purgatorius", this means: "purifying [Fantasy] fire", whereby the term "fire" occurs twice: "ignis" and "pure". However, "flumen purgatorius", "purifying [Fantasy] river", and the like are also said to occur, so that one gets the impression that those "ancient" authors were "no longer conscious" of the meaning of the word, this means: the fiery was only used in a figurative sense. This is my idea about the late stage of development, not about the beginning of the formation of concepts." (p.134)

7.1.C. The chronology of the word Fantasy "purgatory" - thesis

"So the order looks more like this: First it was spoken about the [Fantasy] purgatorium as a physical or mental [Fantasy] purification, then of "Ignis purgatorius" in the sense of a theological concept. Or presenting it in another way: First we have the [Fantasy] writings of the 12th or 13th century on [Fantasy] purgatory, then the [FAKE] justifying [Jesus Fantasy] Church Fathers of the supposedly 2nd to 4th centuries, who turned the somewhat primitive purgatory as a (pagan) location in the Renaissance into a spiritualized meaning, which denotes a punitive [Fantasy] action in the world of the [Fantasy] beyond." (p.134)

7.1.D. Ireland with Saint Patrick and Fantasy "purgatory"

Topper: "But when we approach the locally imagined [Fantasy] purgatory of St. Patrick in Ireland in this almost pagan world of the 12th century, quite unusual insights emerge." (p.134)

7.1.E. The Fantasy of "purgatory" provoked the split between the Jesus Fantasy organization: Western Church (Rome) and the Eastern Church (Byzantium)

"We know — as a layman or as an expert, as a [Jesus Fantasy] Christian or [Jewish Antifa] anarchist — what an important role the [Fantasy] purgatory played in the West: this was really the decisive distinguishing feature between the [Jesus Fantasy] Eastern Church (Byzantium) and the [Jesus Fantasy] Western Church (Rome); that it led to the dispute over indulgences, which once again split the Western [Jesus Fantasy] Church into a Reformed (or Protestant) and a Catholic one; that it is a concept that even exceeds our most modern theory of relativity: a place that lies beyond all geographical definition and beyond all known dimensions of time." (p.134)

7.1.F. Criminal Jesus Fantasy Church invents "purgatory" as a "punishment for original sins"

"[Fantasy] purgatory is the [Fantasy] punishment that good souls have to [Fantasy] suffer because they are subject to [Fantasy] original sin. It is in a parallel time that lies after the death of the individual and before the Last [Fantasy] Judgment, so it is completely excluded from our normal consciousness of time and space. In [Fantasy] purgatory are suffering: [Fantasy] Adam and [Fantasy] Moses and [Fantasy] Pope Peter I and [Fantasy] St. Augustine and Pope John XXIII (I mean the one of the 20th, not the 14th century). Nevertheless, this [Fantasy] place is not outside of our world, but accessible through [Fantasy] intercession and [Fantasy] sacrifice. (see also illustration, page 101)" (p.134)

7. 1. G. The tripartite divisions of the Jesus Fantasy "Christian" world: Mr. Le Goff with Fantasy heaven-hell-refreshment or purgatory - and other tripartite Fantasy divisions

Topper (translation):
"By the way, Mr. Le Goff (in his book "The Birth of Purgatory" from 1984 [web01]) wants to fix the [Jesus Fantasy] Catholic idea to this threefold division: [Fantasy] heaven – purgatory – hell. The [Jesus Fantasy] Catholic (p.134) deity is divided into three parts. But in the texts of the Middle Ages there are more versatile views. The symmetrical idea often occurs:
-- [Fantasy] Heaven as the eternal place of the saved,
-- [Fantasy] Hell as the eternal place of the damned,
-- Then [Fantasy] Refrigerium (refreshment) as a temporary [Fantasy] place of good souls and [Fantasy] purgatorium (penal camp) as a temporary [Fantasy] place of bad souls.

This symmetry was prevalent in the 11th/12th century. That's why the New [Jesus Fantasy] Testament, which was written at that time, also has clear ideas about it. [Fantasy] Luke (16:22-31), in his example of Lazarus, brings up the idea of Abraham's [Fantasy] womb as a [Fantasy] refrigerium.

Previously, the Refrigerium was not an intermediate realm, but the communal meal of relatives at the grave of a deceased person (remembrance festivity).

[Jesus Fantasy] Church writers have invented with this an own [Fantasy] place in the beyond. [FAKE] Paul (1 Corinthians 3:13-15) refers to [Fantasy] purgatory, still in somewhat unclear language. Perhaps this [Fantasy] wording was only obscured later, so as not to express too decisively, what could change again anyway with the healthy popular feeling." (p.135)


7.1.H. Fantasy purgatory and Fantasy refrigerium are taken from the Indian Fantasy KARMA thinking with a Fantasy "Book in Heaven" - relatives can save the sinners by paying (!) - Fantasy Karma nonsense has NOTHING to do with Jesus Fantasy "Christianity" - this came from India to Europe, mediated by the criminal Jesus Fantasy Crusades

Topper quote (translation):
"The [Fantasy] ideas on which the [Fantasy] Refrigerium and [Fantasy] purgatory are based are completely pagan. Today we can only explain it in the Indian sense with [Fantasy] karma thinking. All deeds committed, even such trivial ones as laughing or gossiping, are written down in a [Fantasy]  book in heaven, for each soul individually, and this soul must atone for all these deeds in the hereafter, after death, in a hellish [Fantasy] realm, in [Fantasy] fire and [Fantasy] desert, thirsting and languishing, until the person has either paid the [Fantasy] debt through her suffering or until pious relatives have payed for the [Fantasy] sins up to the last penny." (p.135)

[Supplement: The big robbery with INVENTED DELICTS
The truth of what the criminal Catholic Church is now doing with the idea of fantasy "purgatory" is: INVENT OFFENSES and then a real purgatory is organized, the STAKE. This is the fact that Topper FORGETS to mention - and with the INVENTED offenses, an excuse is created to block people's lives, organize funeral pyres, make people disappear into the dungeon and in the end, if they have not yet died in the dungeon, burning them at the stake. In the process, crimes are SYSTEMATICALLY INVENTED, houses are STOLEN, land is STOLEN, clan imprisonment is applied (pure Nazism) against all other members of a victim's family. Above all, natural medicine with its healers was also destroyed in this way, as well as the physically handicapped were murdered, where it was invented that they were possessed by the "devil". THAT'S WHY the criminal Jesus Fantasy Church split, because the Orthodox Church did NOT want to participate in the mass murder on the pyre, did NOT want to participate in the INVENTED crimes, and did NOT want to participate in the collective punishment against the victims' families. The pyre ritual with the GREAT THEFT by the criminal Jesus Fantasy Church thus spread 'only' in the Catholic and Protestant-reformed areas until Napoleon came and CLEANED UP with the criminal Vatican Church. The STAKE trauma with this crazy purgatory idea lastet in Europe about 500 years, in Latin "America" about 300 years - and the "Christians" thought that they were the "good ones"].

From where came this madness with the Fantasy purgatory? Topper:

"[Fantasy] Karma thinking is an innovation in the West, unchristian in every respect, but precisely determinable in time: after the first [Jesus Fantasy] Crusades. In this respect, Mr. Le Goff is absolutely right in his determination of the time: the birth of [Fantasy] purgatory is not until the 12th century, probably a little later. The derivation from the New [Fantasy] Testament and the [falsified] writings of the [FAKE] Church Fathers is nonsensical. There is simultaneity. There is also a well-intentioned attempt on the part of the [Jesus Fantasy] Christian church to overcome the mercyless wall which [Muhammad Fantasy] Islam and [Moses Fantasy] Judaism have erected between (p.135) the cruel and hopeless [Fantasy] Gehennem / Sheol / Hell and the glorious [Fantasy] realms of the blessed (paradise) by means of a mitigated intermediate area. How welcome! Well, those who place it in a place that has been postponed by a thousand years from a historical point of view will destroy the experiment removing the ground for it. It was not the [falsified] Gospels or [invented] Paul's letters, but the competing religions were the ones requiring a distancing position on the part of the Christian [Jesus Fantasy] Church – assimilating the current trends of the periods and against strong popular beliefs." (p.136)


7.1.I. Investigation by Mr. Le Goff: The predecessors of "purgatory" - example of FAKE "Perpetua"

[First a supplement: the "calendar jump" / "time jump" of 1000 years with the trick "J" - "I" - "1"
During the criminal Crusades, Jesus Fantasy Church gave the order to put a "J" for "Jesus" before their numbers of years - and it is clear that this "J" became a "I" and after that a "1" - this is the "calendar jump" - and the 1000 invented years were filled with FAKE Antiquity and FAKE Middle Ages for a "beautiful Fantasy past" - see for example the historian Christoph Pfister (link) with his book "Matrix" (unfortunately only in German) - link]

-- Predecessor of Fantasy "purgatory" is supposed to be the story of Fantasy "Perpetua" from Fantasy "Carthage", but in reality the fairy tale is a "Sufi treatise" from the "heyday of the Sufis" around 1200 (p.136)
-- The Fantasy fairy tale of Fantasy "Perpetua" goes like this: Two Fantasy women Perpetua and Felicitas are arrested, thrown into the dungeon, are there with 3 Fantasy men and at the end are Fantasy eaten by Fantasy lions - officially written in the year 203 - with a calendar jump of 1000 years this would come out as the year of 1203 which would fit as a Sufi treatise (p.136)
[-- there are supposed to have been 3 authors: Perpetua is said to have made notes (?!) -- or it was a companion "Saturus" - or it was the Fantasy Tertullian [web02]

Topper quote (translation):
"Mr. Le Goff examines all possible predecessors, for example the text of the Perpetua (written in the year 203), which would actually fit better with Thomas Aquinas (13th century), as Marie-Luise von Franz was explaining, she was a woman pupil of [the pioneer psychologist] Mr. C.G. Jung."

[Perpetua is a Fantasy "Christian" martyr in FAKE Carthage with the fictitious dates of life 181-203 [web02] [and Jesus Fantasy Church is inventing many such martyrs for celebrating the FAKE belief - as also FAKE Islam does].

"This "Passio Perpetuae et Felicitatis" (even the title is indicative: "Suffering of the Perpetual and of the Happiness") is actually a Sufi treatise of the simplest kind, somewhat still strange in the West, but nevertheless acceptable. Acceptable around 1200, of course, the heyday of the Sufis [Berbers in Spain]. The frame story of the imprisonment of the two [Fantasy] virgins Perpetua and Felicitas [of course, Church invents always virgins] with their three male comrades [probably with group sex] and their extermination by lions in the arena [which never existed with lions] is so unrealistic that Westerners never really had any difficulties understanding. It was known that it was a spiritualized [Fantasy] story that was supposed to provoke an insight and improvement of the way of life. A possible historical background was certainly not intended." (p.136)

-- Now, the Jesus Fantasy Catholic Mr. Le Goff invents a "core text" and believes in the action of 2 virgins in the dungeon who are said to have been eaten by lions (p.136)

Topper quote (translation):
"Le Goff, however, and with him the recognized historical scholarship as a whole today [as of 2000], remain in a stiff way with their fantasy that [Fantasy] Perpetua and her [Fantasy] comrades were killed in the arena in [Fantasy] Carthage in 203 under [Fantasy] Emperor Septimus Severus. »Even the strictest critics do not doubt the authenticity of the core text.« (Le Goff: p. 74) And we are assured that [the Fantasy] Tertullian, the [Jesus Fantasy] Church Father, really did not write this text, but he was a [Fantasy] witness to the [Fantasy] events in [Fantasy] Carthage." (p.136)

7. 1. J. The Fantasy about Fantasy virgin Perpetua was written 1000 years later, around 1200

Topper quote (translation):
"For me, on the other hand, [Fantasy virgin] Perpetua, the "Everlasting", is an imago (as in Spitteler), invented for literary reasons, loving and lovable, but it has nothing to do with history. It was written a millennium later." (p.136)

[Supplement: In the criminal Jesus Fantasy Church it's normal to be raped as a virgin in the confessional - that's why the criminal Church is always so addicted to virgins in their Fantasy stories].


7.1.K. The calendar jump by 1000 years - Portugal has REFUSED the calendar jump - data manipulation possible in the "Perpetua" story from 203 to 1203 - invented lions in an arena of 1200 - the FAKE biblical exegesis of Abelard with biblical exegesis: with a jump of 700 years

Topper quote (translation):
"Now look, we hear again and again the words: "1000 years later" -, so I think the following: perhaps (p.136) the years were written in the right way and in some Catholic nations like Portugal it's just like this until today, writing the year numbers without the first millennium; documents have the numbers like 998 for the year of today. Because the year 1001 is in reality the year 1. This was the time when the calendar with "Birth of Christ" was introduced. When in an old text can be seen the year 203, so, this could be 1203 of our era, and then this will be really right." (p.137)

[The trick applied by criminal Vatican came from the defeat with the Crusades: putting a "J" - a column "I" - and finally this became a "1" with the Gregorian calendar reform - and thus 1000 years were gained to invent and incorporate FAKE Antiquity + FAKE Middle Ages into the "reformed" cronolgy - see Christoph Pfister: "Matrix of Old History" (orig. German: "Die Matrix der alten Geschichte" - link].

-- The lions in an arena are the spirit of the times around the year 1100 to 1200 (p.137)
-- In the time of the Fantasy Romans there was still no writing and no archives (p.137)
-- Another example of a leap in time is the biblical exegesis of FAKE Abelard, whereby the exegesis is said to have been used by FAKE Augustin 700 years earlier (p.137)
-- Another example is a letter from FAKE Cyprian to FAKE Antoninus, which is said to come from the 3rd century and already contains the "purgatory" (p.137)

Topper quote (translation):
"The virgin martyrs in the Roman arena with the lions come from the mentality of the 12th century and the willingness to preserve such spiritualized texts by copying them for posterity. But maybe they were later monks again." (p.137)

"Just like Abelard (French Jesus Fantasy theologian and philosopher - 1079-1142 [web03]), who in the 12th century founded a revolutionary new biblical exegesis, which Augustine had already used seven centuries earlier. Le Goff says." (p.137)

"Or how Cyprian (Latin, mid-3rd century) was assigned a text (letter to Antoninus) containing purgatory." (p.137)

[Purgatory madness only becomes relevant by the Crusades coming from Iran between 1200 and 1300 - for the letter, this means a jump of 1000 years].

-- Le Goff recognizes the leaps in time (p.137)
-- The cr. Catholic Jesus Fantasy church is integrating purgatory as the stake with mass murders of innocents - Orthodox church in Byzantium reject this madness (p.137)

"Le Goff rejects this, rightly so, but does not conclude that this text can then only have been written after 1170. The contradiction that this famous historian uncovers is already a key to knowledge. Actually, says Le Goff (Le Goff: p. 79), two Greek [Fantasy] theologians introduced purgatory into the [Jesus Fantasy] Church, namely Clement of Alexandria and Origen (both in the 3rd century), but the Patriarchate of Byzantium rejected this invention. Rome, on the other hand, accepted it, although only at the Council of Lyon in 1274 (more precisely confirmed only at the Council of Florence 1438-1439), but the struggle of the two Churches against each other for this purgatory took place in irreconcilable severity." (p.137)

[because the criminal Catholic Church of Vatican Rome had a new way with the stake killing innocents, depriving complete families of all goods and houses robbing them EVERYTHING by clan liability - and the Orthodox Church rejected this mass murder and mass robbery. Killing and stealing is the Catholic business - up to now (2025) with NATO].


7.1.L. The invented characters Mr. Clement and Mr. Origenes - the idea of a "purgatory" from the Iranian text "Avesta"

Topper quote (translation):
"I would like to conclude two things from this controversy: the two Greeks Clement and Origenes were invented by the Latin Church, and the real Council of Lyons in the 13th century took place immediately after the dispute with the mother Church in Byzantium. The writings of Clement and Origen therefore date from the 13th century." (p.137)

-- The Fantasy Mr. Origen (Latin: Origenes) mentions the "original sin" - and this could only be compensated by a "purgatory" (p.138)
-- But the idea of a "purgatory" itself comes from Asia and was only brought to Europe by the Crusades (p.138)
[-- And then the Church of Rome immediately installed pyres to burn dissenters in the real "purgatory" - and that was a pleasure for the criminal Catholic AND Protestant nobility up to Napoleon - NATO and bombs from Boeing etc. are the modern stake NEVER STOPPING murdering innocents around...]

Topper quote (translation):
"Mr. Origen, for example, already knows the expression of original sin [punishment by heritage, clan imprisonment], which can only be compensated for by the passage of fire. The claim that all people have to go through fire is laid down in the Iranian "Avesta" and comparable texts, and these became known to us Westerners very late, at the earliest in the Crusades. The analysis of Mr. Le Goff (p. 83) also suggests for other reasons that Mr. Origenes must have been written in this period, because his idea that all people are saved, and especially the use of the weekly calculation as an apocalyptic measure of time ("Weltalterlehre") are typical of the new awakening in the High Middle Ages. After all, Origen's idea of purgatory is no longer pictorial, but already very spiritual, therefore it probably belongs to the late phase [of the Middle Ages]. But the Origen, who actually believed that he was working in the interests of the church, was finally dropped, he was later considered a heretic." (p.138)

"I already showed the contradictions with Clement of Alexandria when I presented the book of Mrs. Bodmann. All other purgatory writers are Latin writing people [best Latin was written in 13th century]." (p.138)



7.2. Augustin [the analyses of the French historian Le Goff - the FAKE Augustin from Algeria is said to be the "father of purgatory" idea - cannot be]

7.2.1. The introduction of "purgatory" in the Catholic Church from the 12th century onwards - Book by Le Goff "The Birth of purgatory" (1984) - introduced in the Catholic Church from the 12th to the 15th century - Pyre = "real purgatory"
7.2.2. Le Goff on the FAKE "Book of Enoch" - contradictions and arbitrary epochs
7.2.3. Le Goff on the 4th FAKE "Book of Ezra"
7.2.4. Le Goff on Fantasy "apocalypse" FAKES
7.2.5. Le Goff shows how FAKE texts are written and then attributed to the wrong people [this is how they can be sold at a higher price]
7.2.6. Saint Augustine of Hippo (now Algeria) with a FAKE text "De vera et falsa poenitentia" ("About true and false punishments")
7. 2. 7. Pictures with "purgatory"
7.2.8. Resistance to the idea of "purgatory"
7.2.9. FAKE Maccabees book with FAKE "purgatory" - was probably written from the 12th century or only in the Renaissance
7.2.10. Historian Le Goff on "Father Augustine" of Hippo (today Algeria): is supposed to be "father of purgatory" - not because of the gap between the 5th + 12th century - a development standstill and 3 bishops are INVENTED

7.2.1. The introduction of "purgatory" in the Catholic Church from the 12th century onwards - Book by Le Goff "The Birth of purgatory" (1984) - purgatory was introduced in the Catholic Church from the 12th to the 15th century - Pyre = "real purgatory"

-- The French historian Mr. Jacques Le Goff (born in Toulon 1924, died 2014 in Paris [web01]) wrote a book about "The Birth of purgatory" (1984) [web01], but with a blocked "Catholic" perspective (p.133)
-- The Catholic Church has introduced "purgatory" step by step from the 12th to the 15th century [and at the same time the "real purgatory", the stake, was introduced, which Byzantium rejected and thus created the Orthodox Church] (p.138)

Topper quote (translation):

"With Mr. Le Goff (1924-2014 [web01]), who is really competent for purgatory (even if I occasionally doubt his dates), we can state that there was a development in the Catholic Church that, after some hard discussions, inserted purgatory [with the stake as "real purgatory"]. But this development took place in a much shorter period of time, namely in three centuries, from the 12th to the 15th century. Of course, LeGoff is not naïve in his dating. He accepts a certain degree of textual criticism, at least in the case of less sacred texts." (p.138)


7.2.2. Le Goff on the FAKE "Book of Enoch" - contradictions and arbitrary epochs

-- The book of Enoch consists of a puzzle of texts which are contradicting each other and which are written at different times, some of them written only in the 12th century, and therefore this is a forgery (p.138)
-- Altogether there are 3 apocryphal books of Enoch (not approved by the "high religious government") [web05], and Topper does not specify which one he means.

Topper quote (translation):

"The Book of Enoch," he [historian Jacques Le Goff] writes, "is composed of many parts that contradict each other, which is why they cannot have been written by that "Enoch" (3rd millennium B. [Fantasy] C.). Some parts were written at the end of the Middle Ages, i.e. from the 12th century onwards. But: Enoch should actually be pre-Christian, at least a millennium older. Mr. Le Goff does not come to the only possible conclusion that this text was written after the Crusades (p.138), but continues to cling to old dates that were attacked by Christian scholars a hundred years ago." (p.138)


7.2.3. Le Goff on the 4th FAKE "Book of Ezra"

-- The 4th book of Ezra ("Esdra") is supposed to "announce" purgatory for pre-Christian faith groups - officially written until the year 120, actually written from the 9th century - original "lost" of course (p.139)
-- The idea of how the dead are strolling around comes from the 12th century (p.139)

Topper quote (translation):

"Well, let's go to the 4th book of Ezra ([officially] this book was not written later than in the "year of 120 Before [Fantasy] Christ"). This book is presented as a proof for the pre-Christian announcement of purgatory because the definition is: this must be a Jewish book. Rumors say that the oldest manuscript had been written in the 9th century, but there are mising some centuries probably for the final version. The Greek original is lost of course. This book contains a quarrel if the dead will be sleeping until judgement (as it was the mentality for orthodox believers until the Renaissance), or if they will be punished jut after their death (this is the purgatory idea). The feeling coming up is that the quarrel was moved back to the 12th century, but the reality is: this book was moved back to the pre-Christian time installing a base for the New [Fantasy] Testament. Now, see the answer which is given as a solution for the quarrel: it is a dogma solution which counts for the 12th century: The dead are strolling around when they were bad persons, and the good [Jesus Fantasy] Christians are relaxing in their in their boxes until the Last Judgment." (p.139)

-- The FAKE Clement quotes this text of the 4th FAKE book Ezra - so the FAKE Clement is another temporal indicator (p.139)

"As Mr. [FAKE] Clement of Alexandria quotes this text, also Mr. Clement is once again detected. He just was one of the two "fathers of purgatory" according to Le Goff." (p.139)

-- The FAKE Ambrose (Latin: Ambrosius) quotes the 4th FAKE book Ezra extensively - thinking that the text would come from other cultures ("pagan") (p.139)

Topper quote (translation):

"By the way, St. Ambrose (Ambrosius) fell for this text, especially the 4th [Fantasy book] of Esdra, which he quotes extensively and considers pagan, so the conclusion is that he is also invented by some humanists. Unfortunately, he refers to the [Fantasy] Gospel of John (14:2, the many [Fantasy] mansions in the [Fantasy] house of the [Fantasy] Lord), so one can admit that also this verse was inserted later." (p.139)


7.2.4. Le Goff on Fantasy "Apocalypse" FAKES

-- In the FAKE Torah and in the FAKE New Testament one can find different apocalypses (p.139)
-- In Ezra (Esdra) there is a FAKE apocalypse in it - a Hebrew original cannot be found (p.139)
-- See for example the Fantasy "apocalypse of the Fantasy Peter" (p.139)

Topper quote:

"Then there are some Apocalypses, for example that of Esdras, in three parts, which is preserved in two Latin manuscripts from the 11th and 12th centuries and whose original (in Hebrew) is of course lost. (Compare [the book of] 0. Wahl, Leiden 1977 [not mentioned in the register]). And then there is the Apocalypse of Peter, "written around 1000 A.D.", which was important to St. Patrick around 1200. Dante [maybe forged by a corrupt puppet of the Vatican] was enthusiastic about it. In addition to the Greek text, there is also an Ethiopian text, as Hennecke and Schneemelcher testify." (p. 139)
 

7.2.5. Mr. Le Goff shows how FAKE texts are written and then attributed to the wrong people [this is how they can be sold at a higher price]

Topper quote:

"Mr. LeGoff is showing us the latest investigation results about forgering actions, but he (p.139) isnot drawing any conclusions. See this:

The famous text of Peter Damiani (he died in 1072) is now (at the earliest) by Nicolas of Clairvaux, who was [the] private secretary of St. [Fantasy] Bernard and was still alive in 1176.

Here, a manuscript is simply postponed for a century, and attributed as a forgery to a man of integrity, just like this without any protest. In the same sense, the texts of Mr. Hildebert von Mans (he died in 1133) are attributed to a Mr. "Peter the Eater" (German: Peter, dem Fresser), schoolmaster at the College of Our Lady of Paris, who died half a century later, I assume that this happened for stylistic reasons – and acknowledged by Le Goff, in order to save the idea of the origin of purgatory around 1170 (p.490 f.)." (p.140)


7.2.6. Saint Augustine of Hippo (now Algeria) with a FAKE text "De vera et falsa poenitentia" ("About true and false punishments")

-- The text "De vera et falsa poenitentia" of "Saint Augustine" of Hippo is from the end of the 12th century (p.140)
-- The FAKE Augustine of Hippo ("Saint Augustine", "Saint Augustine"), FAKE birth 354 and FAKE death 430 in Hippo Regius, today Annaba (Algeria), was a FAKE bishop from FAKE Roman times, then a FAKE church teacher [web04]

Topper quote (translation):

"Or see the following example with even more forging energy: a text that was supposedly regarded throughout the Middle Ages as a testimony of St. Augustinus, De vera et falsa poenitentia ("Of true and false punishments"), now dates from the 12th century; the oldest manuscript was written shortly before the year 1200. How could the writers of the Middle Ages have known this text? Just only when the texts had been written afterwards." (p. 140)


7. 2. 7. Pictures with "purgatory"

-- Le Goff indicates that the first picture of purgatory is a miniature from 1296, then there is one from 1380, and there is a fresco in the Old Cathedral of Salamanca [in Spain] (p.140)
-- Stylistic criteria provoke the shift of the year 1380 to 1480, according to Le Goff (p.140)

Topper quote (translation):

"By the way, the earliest pictorial representation of purgatory is (according to Le Goff) a miniature from 1296, the next one from 1380, and a fresco in the Old Cathedral of Salamanca, which is fixed by the dating on the fresco itself to "ERA 1300" (= 1262 AD [of Fantasy]). For stylistic reasons, the date is postponed by a hundred years later, as Le Goff makes plausible with quoted expert judgments (which I consider justified since I had seen the work personally). Not even the colorful data available in limestone are valid anymore." (p.140)

Topper Zitat:

"Aber der Mann hat ja recht! Selbstverständlich kam das Fegefeuer erst so spät auf, das merkt man schon an den Reaktionen der unkatholischen Kirchen, etwa der tschechischen. Hus wandte sich lebhaft gegen eine solche Idee. Oder die Waldenser, sie machten sich lustig darüber. Und die Katharer fanden diesen Begriff absurd. Wenn das Fegefeuer von den Kirchenvätern ein Jahrtausend früher schon vorgeprägt worden wäre, dann könnte man als Christ – ganz gleich welcher Strömung – das nicht mehr ablehnen." (S.140)


7.2.8. Resistance to the idea of "purgatory"

-- Those churches which were NEVER Catholic reject the "purgefier" of the cr. gay drug Vatican, for example the Czech Church (p.140)
-- Mr. Hus totally rejected the idea of a "purgatory" as well as the Waldensians and the Cathars [they rejected the stake+mass murder+mass robbery] (p.140)

Topper quote (translation):

"Well, the man is right. Of course, purgatory only came late, and the reactions of the not Catholic Churches were against such an idea like the Czech Church. Mr. Hus also faught against such an idea. Or the Waldenses, they just made jokes about it. And the Cathars considered this idea perverse. When the purgatory was invented 1000 years before already by the Church Fathers, so this would not have been possible to reject as a Christ - not important which of which current." (p.140)

-- Le Goff mentions "church fathers", but the original Christianity is a lie, there was NEVER any, and "church fathers" exist only from the 12th century and from the Renaissance (p.141)

"So: These Church Fathers that Mr. Le Goff is citing did not exist at all. At least not then, but from the 12th century at the earliest and some only in the Renaissance." (p. 141)


7.2.9. FAKE Maccabees book with FAKE "purgatory" - was probably written from the 12th century or only in the Renaissance

-- In the FAKE Maccabees book there is a "purgatory" (p.141)
-- But many Jesus Fantasy theologians think that the passage was inserted later because the passage does not fit into the claimed time - so this is another FAKE (p.141)
-- Presumably the book of Maccabees was written only from the 12th century or only in the Renaissance (p.141)

Topper quote (translation):

"The Maccabean piece is considered by many ancient church authors as a proof of purgatory in pre-Christian times (2 Macc. 12:41-46), but most theologians think that the passage was inserted later,  because at that time the ideas of the release of the dead by sacrifice and the representation of sin by amulets still seem rather anachronistic. The sum of 2000 drachmas does not sound serious either. Now the question is how all these late insertions can be coped with. Will there even remain a "core text" left? Presumably, all this [the complete Maccabean book] was written in the late Middle Ages or in the early Renaissance." (p.141)

[in the FAKER's monasteries somewhere].


7.2.10. Historian Le Goff on "Father Augustine" of Hippo (today Algeria): is supposed to be "father of purgatory" - this does not work because of the gap between the 5th + 12th century - inventions are: a standstill of development and 3 bishops are INVENTED

-- Historian Le Goff said that the FAKE "Augustine" is the "true father" of the FAKE "purgatory" (p.141)
-- With the 1000-year leap everything becomes understandable with monks of 1413 thinking like the FAKE Augustin (p.141)
-- The gap between the FAKE Augustin and the 12th century remains unexplained and 3 FAKE bishops are invented, who are quoting FAKE "Church Fathers" (p.141)

Topper quote (translation):

"Mr. Le Goff is stating that [FAKE] Father Augustin had been the "true father of purgatory" (p.92), especially since the year 413 onwards. But now, we can see already how we have to interpretate the numbers of years. In 1413, monks were living which are known to us and their mentality of thinking is corresponding well to the mentality of Augustin. Who it was precisely, find it out yourself analysing the matter." (p.141)

[And we see, there is another example of a time jump of 1000 years: from 413 to 1413].


And now comes the gap:

"Then comes another difficulty, which Le Goff (p. 133) presents as follows: "Between Gregory the Great and the 12th century – that is, for 5 centuries – the idea of purgatory no longer developed." For this [for this block of development], he finds long explanations, which only make one thing clear, namely that this time did not take place. Because a way of life without development is unthinkable. That's why three Spanish [FAKE] bishops appear on the scene to save the interim period: Mr. Tajon of Zaragoza, Mr. Isidore of Seville and Mr. Julian of Toledo. Now see this: they approach the subject in the same way, even quoting the Greek [FAKE] Church Fathers, and by this, they finally confirm what I did not want to believe. In the 7th century, which was barbarously destined for the Hispanics (these are the words of the bishops when they mean the Visigoths), these writers informed us of the true doctrine of purgatory. There is a great deal of manuscripts of Isidore's books, but for certain reasons they cannot be older than the 10th century (as Oliveira has already shown). Also Julian cannot have been written earlier, either. And Tajon is practically unknown." (p.141)

-- heaps of poems are attributed to the fake Isidore:

"After all, Isidore's texts date back to the 10th century, that's something! So this is how non-Arian Christianity began in Western Europe – about as early as in Byzantium, hardly a generation after Armenia or Arabia. It does not help that a clever theologian, Manuel Diaz y Diaz (1972, quoted in Le Goff), now attributes a work of Isidore to an unknown Irishman of the same century. It is not the geographical displacement that brings us closer to the truth, but the temporal one." (p.141)


7.3. Rear projection [WHO invented the mad idea of "purgatory"? - the poetry from 0 to 1200]

7.3.1. The belief in a "rebirth" is replaced in the Catholic Church by "purgatory" - with the "ultimate goal" of "immortality" - the monks simply claimed that the FAKE "purgatory" came from the FAKE Antiquity, which they themselves had INVENTED (!)
7.3.2. The cr. monks of the Vatican ARE INVENTING Antiquity+Middle Ages and INVENT an "Early Christianity" "Gnosis" that NEVER EXISTED
7.3.3. The FAKE Bede (Beda) of England with a FAKE Church story
7.3.3.A. England: The INVENTION of cross-connections: The FAKE Church history of the FAKE Beda Venerabilis from England (FAKE birth 672/673 near Wearmouth in Northumbria; FAKE death on May 26, 735)
7.3.3.B. England with FAKE Bede: further IMpossibilities in the FAKE Church history of FAKE Bede: Falconry and stimulating plants mentioned
7.3.4. The FAKE monks on the Reichenau Island in Lake Constance: Wetti and Walafried (Walahfrid)
7.3.4.A. Island of Reichenau in Lake Constance: more FAKE monks with FAKE agitation against sexuality: FAKE monk Wetti - FAKE monk Walafried - and the FAKE Charlemagne
7.3.4.B. Island of Reichenau in Lake Constance: The FAKE monk Walafried INVENTS the FAKE Pope Gregory the Great with a passion for an "End Times" scenario: Raids against Rome INVENTED - Tiber flood INVENTED - Plague INVENTED etc.
7.3.3.C. Island of Reichenau in Lake Constance: FAKE monk Walafried INVENTS "Benedict of Monte Cassino" - and installs the "base for purgatory"


7.3.1. The belief in a "rebirth" is replaced in the Catholic Church by "purgatory" - with the "ultimate goal" of "immortality" - the monks simply claimed that the FAKE "purgatory" came from the FAKE Antiquity, which they themselves had INVENTED (!)

-- At the end of the 12th century the [compulsory] belief was with a "rebirth" and a "retribution of deeds" respectively a "purification" by a "purgatory" before the rebirth (p.142)
-- There was a delusion that the whole life should include several lives in order to reach the "final goal", the "immortality" (p.142)
-- The Christian madness [of the cr. Catholics] then claimed an "end times" WITHOUT rebirth, so they replaced the "rebirth" by "purgatory", a new "law of retribution" (p.142)

[and then, they installed this with an Inquisition and the STAKE as a "real purgatory" with all mass murder and all other things belonging to it!]

Topper quote (translation):

"Mr. Le Goff assumes that the "purgatory" was created [in the "Christian" Fantasy zone] at the end of the 12th century. We hve to analyze the mentality of these times at the end of the 12th century. Catholic Christianism was created [with the criminal stake as the real purgatory]). These people still believed in rebirth and retribution of deeds (though not in a karmic way). A subsequent attribution that includes this fact, such as the origin of the concept of purgatory, cannot be detached from the pagan idea. Only those who believe in rebirth know purgatory. Or to put it another way: purgatory is the substitute for the rebirth in which the person purified himself.

The achievement of the ultimate goal – immortality – in a single life is impossible, that much was clear to everyone. But if rebirth was excluded by the new Christian idea of the end times, which did not allow for any return, then a substitute had to be created. For those who were no longer allowed to accept the rebirth, a new possibility had to be created, namely a passage of fire in the pagan style, which did not thwart the new timetable of Christ's return. Purgatory thus gained its right to exist. so we have a law of retribution and the necessity of purification through a life after this present one (well, a purgatory as a concentration camp or a fire revelation). These are the philosophical preconditions for the invention of "purgatory".

-- The monks claimed that the delusion of a "purgatory" came from FAKE Antiquity which the monks had ALSO INVENTED (p.142)
-- The monks INVENTED the "ancient gods" and presented them in the "Renaissance" especially from 1430 as the antithesis to the German world of gods in Central Europe (p.142)
-- Some monks even INVENTED an "early Christianity" called "Gnosis" which NEVER EXISTED (p.142)

Topper quote (translation):

"As you can see, there is pagan content, and not antique greek and roman content of Antiquity (p.142). Don't let yourself be fooled! The content is often our own one that is ordered to suppress. The authority claims that they had detected old antique gods in Gothic Italy and in Germany during the Renaissance (especially since 1430). But this is all invented, they invented a new calendar for destroying German paganism. This was also the conclusion in the works of Mr. Kammeier.

I wanted to deepen this thought by reading Le Goff: there were two phases of backward projection, one in the 12th century, which is also gradually recognized by scholars, and the other in the Renaissance, which was much more profound, because it preceded the historical period of 1200 with a completely unreal "Christian" time, a transition from Roman Antiquity to the new Gnosis,  that never existed. This is — in the chronographic sense — fraud." (p.143)


7.3.2. The cr. monks of the Vatican ARE INVENTING Antiquity+Middle Ages and ARE INVENTING an "Early Christianity" "Gnosis" that NEVER EXISTED

-- The giant fraud of the criminal monks of the Vatican with the invention of a FAKE Antiquity and FAKE Middle Ages is unbelievable (p.143)
-- In addition there is the INVENTION of a FAKE early Christianity after the FAKE Antiquity - then the Byzantium split from the Church and the resistance by Islam was invented, which existed in 1453, but not against a Christianity which is supposed to have had more than 1000 years of "tradition" (p.143)
-- More fraud by the criminal Vatican is not really possible - the "Christian refugees" from Constantinople were traumatized and became the most zealous poets and inventors of history! (p.143)

Topper quote (translation):
"Of course, it is already fraud when monks are fooling us into believing that we have a century, such as the texts which are attributed to Bernard of Clairvaux or to his secretary, which were not written until a hundred years later. But they even invented an early Church putting it 1000 years before, this is just another thing. This is not a little fraud with faked handwriting which could be considered as a skandal. this is a new ideological creation!


The Church invented Antiquity and invented an early Church in those times. This was the propaganda of power inventing just an almost Christian Aniquity.  Fortunately for them, the Seljuks were victorious over Anatolia at that time.


[Islam came to Byzantium in 1453 - because the Vatican sent no defense forces]

And some time later the Ottomans over Byzantium. The gentlemen of the Vatican, who were already quite financially strong at the time, did not send any help to Constantinople, but had purchase contracts with the Turks. They did not think geopolitically, but spiritually. They created their own Church, shrunken but manageable, without Nestorians or Jacobites.

The Christian refugees from Constantinople were the most eager to write a new history. They invented their own history, ennobled themselves with a Christianity that corresponded to the spirit of the times. You can feel it in her writings and admire the bravery. But a backward projection by a millennium was not necessary at the time and is absurd today. The texts of the Greek-(p.143) Latin writers, who were made known as Church Fathers, are new creations of these refugees and their students. To what extent they resorted to old texts, which were then also confirmed by Armenian and Syrian, even Ethiopian manuscripts, one can only guess. It is questionable whether the whole process goes back to memories that were already available before the year 1000." (p.143)

[Supplement:
There are also theses suggesting that there was a major deal: Muhammad Fantasy Islam should get Byzantium, and the Jesus Fantasy Church in return should get Granada, which was occupied in the same year of 1453 and was cleansed by the Jesus Fantasy Christians].


7.3.3. The FAKE Bede (Beda) of England with a FAKE Church chronology

7.3.3.A. England: The INVENTION of cross-connections: The FAKE Church history of the FAKE Beda Venerabilis from England (FAKE birth 672/673 near Wearmouth in Northumbria; FAKE death on May 26, 735)

-- The INVENTION of "cross-connections" (p.144)
-- The invented Bede (p.144) was placed in England and he was even given a "memorial day". The Mossad Wikipedia faithfully writes (translation):
"Bede Venerabilis (German: Bede the Venerable; * 672/673 at Wearmouth in Northumbria; † 26 May 735 in the monastery of Jarrow (link) in the county of Tyne and Wear of today - link) was an Anglo-Saxon Benedictine monk, theologian and historian. His main work is considered to be the [FAKE] Church History of the English People (link). He is venerated as a saint in the Catholic Church, the Orthodox churches, the Anglican Communion and some Protestant denominations. His feast day is May 25." [web06] - in English he is called "Bede" [web07]
-- In the FAKE Church history of the FAKE "Beda Venerabilis" ("honorable Beda") an "intermediate Empire" is invented, which is supposed to come from a FAKE "vision of Drythelm" (p.144)
-- The FAKE Bede is also said to have demanded intercessory prayers, fasting and giving alms [whereby the poor are poor only because they are deprived of the cr. Jesus Fantasy Church!], but after the life of Bede after the year of 735, these 3 demands do not appear again for 300 years - strange (p.144)

Topper quote (translation):

"There are no real cross-connections, and if there ever were any, they were eliminated by the Holy Office (Inquisition). But cross-connections were created that later emerged as useful textual witnesses. Let's look at a few other heroes of the medieval church with [the French historian] Le Goff, for example the "Venerable" Bede (he is really called like that, Venerabilis), who made several [FAKE] journeys from his native England to Rome in the first third of the 8th century. The vision of the intermediate Empire, which he communicates in his famous Church Hstory as the vision of Drythelm, is the first in its way in Church history. Actually, it is a dying experience, as [the FAKE] Plato has handed down from the hero (see also the book of Topper from 1988: "Rebirth. The Knowledge of the Peoples" (orig. German: "Wiedergeburt. Das Wissen der Völker", p. 19). The four places of Heaven-Hell and Paradise-meadow-against-purgatory appear next to each other, confession plays a major role (which was declared obligatory in the 13th century). And the theme of purgatory, which is quite naturally classified here in terms of space and time, is not taken up again until the 12th century (according to Le Goff). Even the prayers of intercession, fasting and alms payments for the poor souls, which Bede demands, actually only occur with Abbot Odilon (died 1049) – but perhaps also this one is installed back by a good century, because it appears in the Book of Visions of Othlon of Regensburg (see Bar, p. 106) as an experience of Drycthelm." (p.144)


7.3.3.B. England with FAKE Bede: further IMpossibilities in the FAKE Church history of FAKE Bede: Falconry and stimulating plants mentioned

Topper quote:

"There is another contradiction in Bede's Church history with his propaganda against bird hunting, this is hunting with falconry, but this was introduced in Europe and England only after the Crusades; and another contradiction is the propaganda against plants for more sex life, which were only known after the Crusades being transmitted from the Arabs." (p.144)


7.3.4. The FAKE monks on the Reichenau Island in Lake Constance: Wetti and Walafried (Walahfrid)

7.3.4.A. Island of Reichenau in Lake Constance: more FAKE monks with FAKE agitation against sexuality: FAKE monk Wetti - FAKE monk Walafried - and the FAKE Charlemagne

-- The FAKE monk Wetti (Latin Wettinus Augiensis) received the FAKE date of birth 780 and the FAKE date of death 824, he was assigned the designations "monk, hagiographer (inventor of saints' life) and schoolmaster" in the monastery of Reichenau [link - island of Reichenau in Lake Constance] - in addition a FAKE pupil "Walahfrid" (Walafried) and a biography "Vita" of a FAKE Gallus are attributed to him [web08]
-- The FAKE "vita" of the FAKE Gallus is said to have been written in "hexameters" which was edited by his FAKE pupil Walahfrid (Walafried) [web08]
-- 4 FAKE works are attributed to the FAKE Walahfrid (Walafried):
1) The FAKE "Vision of Wetti" ("Visio Wettini" 824) in Latin hexameters with a vision of death and the idea of the afterlife [web09]
2) The FAKE horticulture manual "Book on the cultivation of gardens" ("Liber de cultura hortorum" 840), also simply "Hortulus", in verse form, with 24 medicinal plants [web09]
3) The FAKE criticism of the FAKE Palatine Chapel of Aachen (Germany), where a FAKE statue of the FAKE Ostrogoth king Theodoric the Great of Ravenna should be erected (but this remained only a project) [web09]
4) The FAKE Bible interpretation "Glossa ordinaria" [web09]

-- the FAKE "verse epic" of Walafried [unfortunately it is not specified which one] is supposed to agitate against normal sexuality all the time, with a FAKE Charlemagne whose masculinity is being eaten away by animals and so on. Allisonlycrazy, because such admonitions only come with the real plague from the late Renaissance (p.144-145) [and the reason for the plague were Christian trading ships with rats and fleas as well as corrupt doctors who deliberately spread the plague].

Topper quote (translation):

"But it's getting even more famous. The monk Wetti (died 824) in the monastery of Reichenau had a vision in the night before his death, which was written down by the monastery abbot Heito and from the text of which the later (p.144) abbot Walafried Strabo created a verse epic, which with its almost baroque anti-sex lust hangs completely anachronistically in the space-time continuum. St. Charlemagne is tormented by wild animals that tear apart his man's member — but only this one — because he is said to have engaged in illegitimate or even incestuous intercourse. Were such accusations possible just a few years after Charlemagne's death? But even if it was not Wetti, but Walafried (died 849) who invented it, it is still too early, because the numerous admonitions against sodomy and lust of women did not become a topic of the day until the time of the plague at the earliest, rather in the late Renaissance." (p.145)

[Addition: Syphilis in Europe since 1492
Since 1492, syphilis spreads in Europe, brought by native women from the Caribbean who had no problem with it. Columbus had brought the women to the Spanish court. From this point on, it can be assumed that sexuality becomes now a topic in official literature in Europe, not before].

"Walafried, who bore an ancient title (Strabo) like many of these antiquated hypocrites, was the one who newly published Einhard's biography of Charlemagne and fought against the idea that a statue of the Ostrogoth king Theodoric would be erected in Charlemagne's imperial cathedral ['Palatine Chapel'] at Aachen. [Historian] Mr. Illig was proving in 1977 that the architecture of the chappel is a FAKE and could only have been built some centuries later (see illustration, p. 146). And also the other indications do not match but are fables of nonsense. These fables could be told in the High Middle Ages as stories from a distant mythological past, but not to Charlemagne's contemporaries." (p.145)

[And of course this Charlemagne is another FAKE - for INVENTING a great, French-German-Christian empire for embellishing the French German FAKE history in Europe..]

Aachen: FAKE-Kirche Pfalzkapelle [kap7 foto2]

Zu den Anachronismen an der Aachener Pfalzkapelle (hier Querschnitt) zählen im Erdgeschoss der offene Sturz überm Eingangstor, im ersten Stock die schrägen Gewölbetonnen, die Fensterlaibungen und der senkrecht beschnittene Kämpfer im Umgang. Aus: Heribert Illig, Das erfundene Mittelalter, Düsseldorf 1997, S. 253 (nach Albrecht Haupt, Die Pfalzkapelle Kaiser Karls des Grossen, 1913). (S.146)

Among the anachronisms in the Palatine Chapel of Aachen (here in cross-section) are the open lintel above the entrance gate on the ground floor, the slanted vaulted ceilings in the first floor, the window recesses, and the vertically cut impost in the passageway. From: Heribert Illig, The Invented Middle Ages, Düsseldorf 1997, p. 253 (according to Albrecht Haupt, The Palatine Chapel of Emperor Charlemagne, 1913). (p. 146)

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7.3.4.B. Island of Reichenau in Lake Constance: The FAKE monk Walafried INVENTS the FAKE Pope Gregory the Great with a passion for an "End Times" scenario: Raids against Rome INVENTED - Tiber flood INVENTED - Plague INVENTED etc.

Topper quote:

"Walafried also betrays himself — or should this become one of the necessary 'cross-confirmations'? — by quoting the dialogues of Pope Gregory the Great. This truly belongs to the Renaissance, as can be seen from the dialogues themselves. I want to translate a characteristic passage from LeGoff's book (pp. 121 f.), in which the French author we are examining also becomes vivid (p. 145):



7.3.4.B. Insel Reichenau im Bodensee: Der FAKE-Mönch Walafried ERFINDET den FAKE-Papst Gregor der Grosse mit der Leidenschaft für eine "Endzeit": Raubzüge gegen Rom ERFUNDEN - Tiber-Überschwemmung ERFUNDEN - Pest ERFUNDEN etc.

Topper Zitat:

"Walafried verrät sich ausserdem — oder sollte es eine der notwendigen „Querbestätigungen“ werden? —, indem er die Dialoge von Papst Gregor dem Grossen zitiert. Der gehört wirklich in die Renaissance, wie aus den Dialogen selbst hervorgeht. Ich will aus LeGoffs Buch einen charakteristischen Abschnitt (S. 121 f.) übersetzen, in dem zugleich auch der französische Autor, den wir hier betrachten, bildhaft wird (S.145):

»Bevor Gregor der Grosse „konvertierte“ und die Kutte anzog, . . . ar er Präfekt der Stadt Rom und mit Versorgungsproblemen beauftragt in jenem Italien, das Beute der Byzantiner, Goten und Langobarden und der Pest war; ausserdem war er Botschafter des Papstes beim Kaiser in Konstantinopel. Im Jahre 590 wird er unter dramatischen Umständen auf den Heiligen Stuhl berufen: Der Tiber ist schrecklich angeschwollen und überschwemmt die Stadt inmitten von angsterregenden Wunderereignissen; vor allem eine schreckliche Pestepidemie (eine der stärksten Ausbreitungen dieser grossen (S.145) Seuche, der ersten schwarzen Pest, die sogenannte justinianische, die seit einem halben Jahrhundert schon den Mittleren Osten, die byzantinische Welt, Nordafrika und das mittelmeerische Europa heimsucht) dezimiert die Bevölkerung. Wie Cäsarius, mehr noch als er, entsprechend seiner Funktion, Persönlichkeit und dem historischen Augenblick, wird Gregor zum Hirten der Endzeit. Überzeugt, dass das Ende der Welt nahe bevorsteht, wirft er sich mit Leidenschaft in das grosse Unternehmen der Rettung des [FAKE]-Christenvolkes, wofür er bald Rechenschaft vor [dem Fantasie]-Gott ablegen muss. Für die [Fantasie]-Christen im Inland ist er ein grosser Organisator von [Fantasie]-Prozessionen und [Fantasie]-Zeremonien, . . . den fremden Völkern schenkt er [nötigende] Missionare [mit systematischer Irreführung und Fantasie]:
-- Den Engländern, die zum [Götterwelt]-Heidentum zurückgekehrt sind, schickt er eine [Fantasie]-Gesandtschaft nach Canterbury, die die christliche [Jesus-Fantasie]-Wiedereroberung Grossbritanniens beginnt.
-- Den Italienern schenkt er ein Buch mit [FAKE]-Heiligenlegenden und zeichnet unter den italienischen Vätern einen kürzlich gestorbenen [Fantasie]-Mönch, Benedikt von Monte Cassino, aus, indem er ihn zu einem grossen [Fantasie]-Heiligen der [Fantasie]-Christenheit macht.
Gibt es unter den Christen, die gerettet werden müssen, keine wiederzugewinnenden Toten? Die Endzeitleidenschaft Gregors wirkt sich noch jenseits des Todes aus.« (S.147)

-- also die Häufung der Erfindungen in pathetischer Sprache ist eine Zumutung - und die Erfindung von Pestepidemien hat in der FAKE-Kirche Tradition (S.147)
-- die Erfindung von Pestepidemien ist eine reine Angstmacherei der kr. Mönche vom Fatikaan (S.147)
-- nach den Gründen der Pest wird aber NIE gesucht, sondern einfach immer ein Fantasie-Urteil eines Fantasie-Gottes erfunden (S.147)


"Before Gregory the Great 'converted' and put on the habit, . . . he prefect of the city of Rome and charged with supply problems in that Italy that was the prey of the Byzantines, Goths and Lombards and the plague; he was also the Pope's ambassador to the emperor in Constantinople. In 590, he was summoned to the Holy See under dramatic circumstances: the Tiber had swelled terribly and flooded the city in the midst of frightening miracles; above all a terrible plague epidemic (one of the strongest spreads of this great (p.145) plague, the first black plague, the so-called Justinian plague, which has been afflicting the Middle East, the Byzantine world, North Africa and Mediterranean Europe for half a century) is decimating the population. Like Caesarius, even more than he, according to his function, personality and historical moment, Gregory becomes the shepherd of the end times. Convinced that the end of the world is near, he throws himself passionately into the great enterprise of saving the [FAKE] Christian people, for which he soon has to give an account before [the Fantasy] God. For the [Fantasy] Christians at home, he is a great organizer of [Fantasy] processions and [Fantasy] ceremonies, . . . to the foreign peoples he gives [coercing] missionaries [with systematic deception and Fantasy]:
-- To the English, who have returned to paganism, he sends a [Fantasy] embassy to Canterbury, which begins the Christian [Jesus Fantasy] reconquest of Great Britain.
-- He gives a book of [FAKE] legends of saints to the Italians and distinguishes among the Italian fathers a recently deceased [Fantasy] monk, Benedict of Monte Cassino, by making him a great [Fantasy] saint of [Fantasy] Christianity.
Are there no dead to be recovered among Christians who need to be saved? Gregor's passion for the Last Days has an effect beyond death." (p.147)

-- so the accumulation of inventions in pathetic language is an imposition - and the invention of plague epidemics has a tradition in the FAKE Church [1) to spread fear and 2) therefore to retain the lying power] (p.147)
-- the invention of plague epidemics is a pure fear-mongering of the cr. monks of the cr. gay drug and Satanic Vatican (p.147)
-- but the reasons of the plague are NEVER sought, but simply a Fantasy judgment of a Fantasy god is always invented (p.147)



Topper Zitat:

"Abgesehen von der pathetischen Sprache sind in diesem kleinen Abschnitt dermassen viele Erfindungen zusammengestellt, dass allein schon diese Häufung eine völlige Streichung des romanhaften Superpapstes verlangt. Hinweisen möchte ich hier auf die zahlreichen Erwähnungen von Pestepidemien in den kirchlichen Texten – eine andere soll 744-747 gewütet haben –, die von geschichtlich forschenden Medizinern für Erfindungen gehalten werden. Vor den Pestausbrüchen im 14. Jahrhundert kann keine wirklich dingfest gemacht werden. Die Rückprojektion der Pest ist ein typisches Mittel der Kirche, derartige ausserhalb ihrer Kontrolle liegenden Katastrophen zur Gewohnheit zu deklarieren, um Fragen nach den Gründen auszuschalten." (S.147)

Topper quote:

"Apart from the pathetic language, this small section contains so many inventions that this accumulation alone requires a complete removal of the novel-like super pope. I would like to point out the numerous mentions of plague epidemics in the ecclesiastical texts – another is said to have raged from 744-747 – which are considered inventions by historians and medical researchers. No real evidence can be established concerning the plague outbreaks in the 14th century. The retrojection of the plague is a typical means employed by the Church to declare such catastrophes, which are outside of its control, to be a norm in order to eliminate questions regarding the causes." (p. 147)

[The indirect message of the lying Church is this one: Natives with Mother Earth cannot live cleanly and therefore plague is said to have always spread there - but all this is a LIE. In reality, it is like this: The CHURCH is the PEST on the planet with eternal lies, bullying and character assassinations. And Synagogue and mosque are no better...]


7.3.4.C. Insel Reichenau im Bodensee: FAKE-Mönch Walafried ERFINDET den "Benedikt von Monte Cassino" - und legt die "Grundlage für das Fegefeuer"

Topper Zitat:

"In den Dialogen (2. Buch) hat Gregor nicht nur den heiligen Benedikt von Monte Cassino (529, eine völlig legendäre Gestalt) als Neubegründer des Mönchstums »lanciert«, wie Le Goff (S. 241 f.) sich ausdrückt, sondern (im 4. Buch) auch die theologische Grundlage für das Fegefeuer geschaffen, und das kommt selbst nach [dem französischen Historiker] Le Goff rund sechs Jahrhunderte zu früh. Erst in dem Wunderbuch des Petrus (S.147)  Damiani (angeblich 1063-1072 verfasst), eines Mönchs von Monte Cassino, kehren die Seelen aus dem Fegefeuer wieder, um die Lebenden um Hilfe zu bitten oder vor Sünden zu warnen. Die Jungfrau Maria hat nämlich einige Seelen, die in ihrer Jugend zuviel Sex hatten, für jeweils ein Jahr befreit, und zwar ausgerechnet in der Nacht vor dem 15. August, Mariä Himmelfahrt (S. 243). Damit springen wir zeitlich weit voraus, sowohl sprachlich als auch inhaltlich, die „Wiedergänger“ und den Marienkult betreffend." (S.148)



7.3.4.C. Island of Reichenau in Lake Constance: FAKE monk Walafried INVENTS "Benedict of Monte Cassino" - and installs the "base for purgatory"

Topper quote:

"In the Dialogues (Book 2), Gregory not only 'launched' [INVENTED] Saint Benedict of Monte Cassino (529, a completely legendary figure) as the re-establisher of monasticism, as Le Goff (p. 241 f.) puts it, but (in Book 4) also established the theological foundation for purgatory, which according to [the French historian] Le Goff is around six centuries too early. Only in the Book of Miracles of Peter (p.147) Damiani (allegedly written 1063-1072), a monk from Monte Cassino, do souls return from purgatory to ask the living for help or to warn them of sins. The Virgin Mary has freed some souls who had too much sex in their youth for one year each, specifically on the night before August 15, the Assumption of Mary (p. 243). This takes us far ahead in time, both linguistically and in terms of content, regarding the 'Wiedergänger' and the cult of Mary.



7.4. St. Patrick [Fegefeuer-Visionen von geisteskranken "Christen" - am Ende auch von einem FAKE-Patrick]

7.4.1. FAKE-Fegefeuer-Roman 1116 von FAKE-Guibert von Nogent - Widersprüche und Puzzleteile
7.4.2.A. Weitere FAKE-Fegefeuer-Visionen: von einem FAKE-Mönch Alberic von Settefrati - von 1 FAKE-Abt in Monte Cassino - von 1 FAKE-Petrus Diakonus - von 1 FAKE-Perpetua und Felicitas
7.4.2.B. Weitere FAKE-Fegefeuer-Visionen: Der FAKE-Heilige Anskar - mit Elementen des 12. Jh.
7.4.2.C. Weitere FAKE-Fegefeuer-Visionen: von einem Tnugdal von Irland
7.4.2.D. Weitere FAKE-Fegefeuer-Visionen: von einem FAKE-Patrick (ein Jesus-Fantasie-Missionar von Irland, 5.Jh.) - soll ein "Bestseller" gewesen sein (!)


7.4. St. Patrick [purgatory visions of mentally ill "Christians" - finally also from a certain FAKE Patrick]

7.4.1. FAKE purgatory novel ov 1116 by FAKE Guibert von Nogent - contradictions and puzzle pieces
7.4.2.A. Other FAKE purgatory visions: of a FAKE monk Alberic of Settefrati - of 1 FAKE abbot in Monte Cassino - of 1 FAKE Peter Deacon - of two FAKE women: Perpetua and Felicitas
7.4.2.B. More FAKE purgatory visions: the FAKE Saint Anskar - with elements from the 12th century
7.4.2.C. More FAKE purgatory visions: of a Tnugdal of Ireland
7.4.2.D. Other FAKE purgatory visions: by a certain FAKE Patrick (a Jesus Fantasy missionary from Ireland, 5th century) - supposedly a "bestseller" (!)

7.4.1. FAKE-Fegefeuer-Roman 1116 von FAKE-Guibert von Nogent - Widersprüche und Puzzleteile

-- FAKE-Guibert von Nogent (um1055 bis 1125) wird als für seine Zeit "unbedeutend" taxiert, "Benediktiner, Geschichtsschreiber und Theologe" und Autobiograph, der genaue Geburtsort ist unbekannt, wird in die Region Beauvais platziert, soll "vermutlich 1125" gestorben sein - die Mönche des Vatikans erfanden dann, er sei wegen der FAKE-Mittelalterbeschreibungen ab der Renaissance mehr erwähnt worden [web10]
-- FAKE-Werke sind
1) eine FAKE-Beschreibung des Ersten Kreuzzugs (Gottes Taten durch die Franken - lat.: Gesta Dei per Francos - kurz: "Gesta" - Link) - "die er zwischen 1106 und 1109 verfasste und die 1121 bekannt wurde" - dabei soll er eine anonyme Geschichte eines "normannischen Autors" bearbeitet haben und sein Latein soll "schwierig zu lesen" sein - "akrobatisch, absichtlich schwieriges" Latein - mit FAKE-Zitaten von FAKE-Kreuzzugsteilnehmern - und die Franzosen werden mit ihrem "kriegerischen [Mörder]-Geist" verherrlicht, die nur von den Türken gestoppt werden könnten [web10]
2) FAKE-Autobiographie 1115 "De vita sua sive monodiarum suarum libri tres" - kurz: "Memoiren", im selben Stil wie die FAKE-"Confessiones" von FAKE-Augustinius von Hippo mit Beschreibungen von Gesellschaft und Bräuchen in Frankreich, einer "Kommune von Laon", über Burg, FAKE-Kloster, FAKE-Erziehungsmethoden, FAKE-Zeitgenossen, mit FAKE-Hobbys und FAKE-Feindbildern [web10]


7.4.1. FAKE purgatory novel ov 1116 by FAKE Guibert von Nogent - contradictions and puzzle pieces

-- FAKE Guibert von Nogent (FAKE birth around 1055, FAKE death in 1125) is estimated as "insignificant" for his time, "Benedictine, historian and theologian" and autobiographer, the exact place of birth is unknown, is placed in the region of Beauvais in France, is said to have died "probably in 1125" - the monks of the Vatican then invented that he had been mentioned more because of the FAKE descriptions of the Middle Ages from the Renaissance onwards [web10]
-- FAKE works are
1) a FAKE description of the First Crusade (God's deeds by the Franks - Latin: Gesta Dei per Francos - short: "Gesta" - Link) - "which he wrote between 1106 and 1109 and which became known in 1121" - he is said to have edited an anonymous story of a "Norman author" and his Latin is said to be "difficult to read" - "acrobatic, deliberately difficult" Latin - with FAKE quotes from FAKE crusade participants - and the French are confronted with their "warlike [murderer] spirit", which could only be stopped by the Turks [web10]
2) FAKE autobiography 1115 "De vita sua sive monodiarum suarum libri tres" - short: "Memoirs", in the same style as the FAKE "Confessions" by FAKE Augustinius of Hippo with descriptions of society and customs in France, a "Commune of Laon", about castle, FAKE monastery, FAKE educational methods, FAKE contemporaries, with FAKE hobbies and FAKE enemy images [web10]

Topper now mentions that there should be a FAKE novel about FAKE purgatory by FAKE Guibert von Nogent. Quote:

"[French historian] Le Goff [1924-2014] is moving forward tirelessly. In 1116, Guibert of Nogent wrote a "psychoanalytical" novel about purgatory in northeastern France." (p.148)

[Too bad the name of the book is missing, or does it mean the autobiography of 1115? - But everybody knows now that this Guibert is a FAKE].


7.4.2.A. Other FAKE purgatory visions: of a FAKE monk Alberic of Settefrati - of 1 FAKE abbot in Monte Cassino - of 1 FAKE Peter Deacon - of two FAKE women: Perpetua and Felicitas

-- and there are supposed to be even more FAKE visions from other FAKE monks: FAKE monk Alberic of Settefrati, FAKE abbot in Monte Cassino, a FAKE Peter deacon, an alleged "original" (p.148):


Topper erwähnt nun es solle von FAKE-Guibert von Nogent ein FAKE-Roman über das FAKE-Fegefeuer existieren. Zitat:

"[Der französische Historiker] Le Goff [1924-2014] schreitet unermüdlich voran. 1116 entstand in Nordostfrankreich durch Guibert von Nogent ein „psychoanalysierender“ Roman über das Fegefeuer." (S.148)

[Schade, dass der Name des Buches fehlt, oder ist damit die Autobiographie von 1115 gemeint?].


7.4.2.A. Weitere FAKE-Fegefeuer-Visionen: von einem FAKE-Mönch Alberic von Settefrati - von 1 FAKE-Abt in Monte Cassino - von 1 FAKE-Petrus Diakonus - von 1 FAKE-Perpetua und Felicitas

-- und es soll noch mehr FAKE-Visionen von anderen FAKE-Mönchen geben: FAKE-Mönch Alberic von Settefrati, FAKE-Abt in Monte Cassino, ein FAKE-Petrus Diakonus, ein angebliches "Original" (S.148):

"[French historian] Le Goff [1924-2014] is moving forward tirelessly. In 1116, Guibert of Nogent wrote a "psychoanalytical" novel about purgatory in northeastern France." (p.148)

[But the name of the book is missing, or does it mean the autobiography of 1115?].




Topper weiter:

"der noch übertroffen wird von jener Vision des Mönchs Alberic von Settefrati, die er als zehnjähriges Kind in einem neuntägigen Koma hatte (1110) und zehn Jahre später seinem Abt in Monte Cassino erzählte, die dieser sogleich aufschrieb. Die Weitergabe des Textes durch zu viele Mönche hatte aber zur Folge, dass er zu sehr verändert wurde, weshalb weitere zehn Jahre später Petrus Diakonus mithalf, ihn wieder zu bereinigen (um 1130). Dieser Text ist uns erhalten. Er passt zu den Visionen, sagt Le Goff (S. 251), die uns auch sonst so von Monte Cassino bekannt sind, nämlich die schon erwähnten der heiligen Perpetua und Felicitas (2. Jahrhundert), des Wetti (9. Jahrhundert), das Leben des Sankt Brandan und anderen." (S.148)


Topper continues:

"who is surpassed by the vision of the monk Alberic of Settefrati, which he had as a ten-year-old child in a nine-day coma (1110) and recounted to his abbot in Monte Cassino ten years later, which he immediately wrote down. However, the transmission of the text by too many monks resulted in it being altered too much, which is why ten years later, Petrus Diakonus helped to restore it (around 1130). This text has been preserved for us. It fits with the visions, says Le Goff (p. 251), that are otherwise so well known from Monte Cassino, namely the already mentioned ones of Saint Perpetua and Felicitas (2nd century), that of Wetti (9th century), the life of Saint Brendan, and others." (p.148)



-- die "Fegefeuer"-Legenden dieser FAKE-Mönche haben auch noch eine komische Geschichte mit Verlust des Textes schon nach 10 Jahren - dann folgt eine Vision von 20 Druckseiten mit einem "chaotischen Spaziergang" von bunt durcheinandergewürfelten Quellen (S.148)

Topper Zitat:

"Nicht nur diese Zusammenstellung, sondern auch die seltsame Überlieferungsgeschichte — Verderbnis des Textes schon nach zehn Jahren! — lassen nur sehr viel spätere Abfassung annehmen. Übrigens füllt diese Vision 20 Druckseiten (!) und ist ein chaotischer »Spaziergang, aus zahlreichen literarischen Quellen gespeist und von benediktinischem Patriotismus beflügelt« (5. 255). Dadurch wird er keineswegs glaubwürdiger." (S.148)

-- the "purgatory" legends of these FAKE monks also have a funny story with the loss of the text already after 10 years - then follows a vision of 20 printed pages with a "chaotic walk" of motley sources (p.148)

Topper quote (translation):

"Not only this compilation, but also the strange history of tradition —corruption of the text after only ten years! — can only be assumed to be written much later. Incidentally, this vision fills 20 printed pages (!) and is a chaotic "walk, fed by numerous literary sources and inspired by Benedictine patriotism" (5. 255). That doesn't make him any more credible." (p.148)


7.4.2.B. Weitere FAKE-Fegefeuer-Visionen: Der FAKE-Heilige Anskar - mit Elementen des 12. Jh.

-- die Mönche ERFANDEN einen Mönch "Anskar" (auch "Ansgar") in Bremen, mit FAKE-Geburt 801 in der Picardie, mit FAKE-Tod in Bremen 865), ihm wird der Beruf "Erzbischof von Hamburg und Bremen" sowie "Missionsbischof für Skandinavien" zugedichtet - sein FAKE-Nachfolger Rimbert hat die meisten FAKE-Daten von ihm in seiner FAKE-Heiligengeschichte "Vita Anskari" überliefert [web11]
-- und dieser FAKE-Anskar soll auch eine FAKE-Vision eines FAKE-Fegefeuers gehabt haben (S.148-149)


7.4.2.B. More FAKE purgatory visions: the FAKE Saint Anskar - with elements from the 12th century

-- the monks INVENTED a monk "Anskar" (also "Ansgar") in Bremen, with a FAKE birth in 801 in Picardy (France), with a FAKE death in Bremen in 865), he is attributed with the titles "Archbishop of Hamburg and Bremen" as well as "Mission Bishop for Scandinavia" - his FAKE successor Rimbert has preserved most FAKE details about him in his FAKE hagiography "Vita Anskari" [web11]
-- and this FAKE Anskar is also said to have had a FAKE vision of a FAKE purgatory (pp. 148-149).



Topper Zitat:

"Einzufügen wäre hier eine hübsche Legende des heiligen [FAKE]-Anskar, des [Jesus-Fantasie]-Missionars des deutschen Nordens, dessen Lebensbeschreibung durch seinen [FAKE]-Nachfolger Rimbert trotz aller scharfsinnigen Zweifel an den vielen im 18. und 19. Jahrhundert gefälschten Chronikbüchern aus Korvey meist als echt gilt. Schon als fünfjähriger Klosterschüler (S.148) hatte er [der FAKE-Anskar] eine Vision der [FAKE]-Maria, und als Jungmann war er beim
Tod [des FAKE]-Kaiser Karls des Grossen dermassen niedergeschlagen, dass er eine Art [FAKE]-Sterbeerlebnis hatte, wobei ihm [ein FAKE]-Petrus und [ein FAKE]-Johannes (der Täufer) das [FAKE]-Fegefeuer zeigten. Drei Tage musste er in dieser Feuerqual ausharren, was ihm wie tausend Jahre vorkam, dann kehrte er unter die Lebenden zurück mit der Gewissheit, die [FAKE]-Märtyrerkrone zu erhalten (was sich aber dann doch nicht bewahrheitete). Auch die Sündenbeichte wird in dem Text eingeführt – alles Elemente, die frühestens ins 12. Jahrhundert gehören." (S.149)


Topper quote:

"Here it would be nice to include a legend of the holy [FAKE]-Anskar, the [Jesus-Fantasy] missionary of the German North, whose life description is mostly considered authentic despite all the sharp doubts about the many chronicle books from Corvey (abbey monastery at Bremen [web16]) that were forged in the 18th and 19th centuries, because of his [FAKE]-successor Rimbert. At the age of five, as a monk schoolboy (p. 148), he had a vision of [FAKE]-Mary, and as a young man, he was so downcast at the death of [FAKE]-Emperor Charlemagne that he experienced a sort of [FAKE]-near-death experience, during which [a FAKE]-Peter and [a FAKE]-John (the Baptist) showed him [the FAKE]-purgatory. He had to endure three days in this fiery torment, which felt to him like a thousand years, then he returned to the living with the certainty of receiving the [FAKE]-martyr's crown (which ultimately did not come to pass). The confession of sins is also introduced in the text – all elements that belong to the 12th century at the earliest." (p.149)



7.4.2.C. Weitere FAKE-Fegefeuer-Visionen: von einem Tnugdal von Irland

-- der FAKE-Tnugdal (lat. Tnugdalus, vereinfacht auch Tundalus, Tondolus) ist ein FAKE-Ritter aus Irland - er soll im 12.Jh. eine FAKE-Vision mit einer Jenseitsvision geschrieben haben [web15]
-- dem FAKE-Tnugdal von Irland wird eine FAKE-Fegefeuer-Vision zugeschrieben, die soll aber erst 1882 in Erlangen gedruckt worden sein (S.149)
-- da kommt Wiedergeburt und Karmadenken vor, wie auch eine Königsliste von Irland - alles typische Elemente der "Humanisten"-Mönche des Gay-Vatikans zwischen 1400 und 1600 (S.149)


7.4.2.C. More FAKE purgatory visions: of a Tnugdal of Ireland

-- the FAKE Tnugdal (lat. Tnugdalus, simplified also Tundalus, Tondolus) is a FAKE knight from Ireland - he is said to have written a FAKE vision with a vision of the afterlife in the 12th century [web15]
-- the FAKE Tnugdal of Ireland is attributed a FAKE purgatory-vision, but it is said to have been printed only in 1882 in Erlangen (p.149)
-- there is rebirth and karma thinking, as well as a king list of Ireland - all typical elements of the "humanist" monks of the gay Vatican between 1400 and 1600 (p.149)



Topper Zitat:

"Folgen wir weiter Le Goff, der uns in dem lateinischen Bericht des [FAKE]-Tnugdal von Irland von 1149 (erwähnt im Buch von Francis Bar: Les routes de l'autre monde (Paris 1946), S. 106) – gedruckt 1882 in Erlangen – »indo-europäische Erbstücke« wie Wiedergeburts- und Karmadenken vorführt sowie die legendären Könige Irlands (ein typisches Produkt der Humanisten). Le Goff wundert sich, dass die irischen Könige als historisches Faktum geglaubt werden. Ich wundere mich, dass Le Goff die Datierung ernst nimmt." (S.149)

Topper quote:

"Let us continue to follow Le Goff, who presents in the Latin account of the [FAKE]-Tnugdal from Ireland from 1149 (mentioned in the book by Francis Bar: Les routes de l'autre monde (Paris 1946), p. 106) – printed in 1882 in Erlangen – 'Indo-European heirlooms' such as ideas of rebirth and karma, as well as the legendary kings of Ireland (a typical product of the humanists). Le Goff wonders that the Irish kings are believed as a historical fact. I wonder that Le Goff takes the dating seriously." (p. 149)



7.4.2.D. Weitere FAKE-Fegefeuer-Visionen: von einem FAKE-Patrick (ein Jesus-Fantasie-Missionar von Irland, 5.Jh.) - soll ein "Bestseller" gewesen sein (!)

-- die Mönche des Vatikans erfanden einen FAKE-Missionar von Irland, der "Heilige Patrick", lateinisch: Magonus Sucatus Patricus, irisch: Pádraig Mac Calprainn, Naomh Pádraig; mit FAKE-Geburt Ende 4.Jh/Anfang 5.Jh, in der FAKE-römischen Provinz von GB, mit FAKE-Tod 461 oder 493 [???] in Irland im County Down - ihm wird der Beruf "römisch-britischer-christlicher Missionar" angedichtet - er gilt in Irland als "Nationalheiliger" - er soll in Irland "Klöster, Schulen und Kirchen" gegründet haben und als "Bischo" amtiert haben - "die Legenden wurden mindestens hundert Jahre später verfasst" [web12]
-- der FAKE-Patrick bekam einen FAKE-Herausgeber, den Henry of Saltrey, der die FAKE-Vision vom FAKE-Fegefeuer des FAKE-Patrick herausgab: "Treatise on the Purgatory of Saint Patrick" (orig. Latin: "Tractatus de Purgatorio Sancti Patricii") mit den FAKE-Jahreszahlen 1180-1184 [web13]


7.4.2.D. Other FAKE purgatory visions: by a certain FAKE Patrick (a Jesus Fantasy missionary from Ireland, 5th century) - supposedly a "bestseller" (!)

-- The monks of the Vatican invented a FAKE missionary from Ireland, the "Saint Patrick", Latin: Magonus Sucatus Patricus, Irish: Pádraig Mac Calprainn, Naomh Pádraig; with a FAKE birth at the end of the 4th century/beginning of the 5th century, in the FAKE Roman province of GB, with a FAKE death in 461 or 493 [???] in Ireland in County Down - he is ascribed the profession of 'Roman-British-Christian missionary' - he is regarded in Ireland as the 'National Saint' - he is said to have founded 'monasteries, schools, and churches' in Ireland and served as a 'Bishop' - 'the legends were written at least a hundred years later' [web12]
-- the FAKE Patrick got a FAKE publisher, Henry of Saltrey, who published the purgatory vision from the FAKE Patrick: 'Tractatus de Purgatorio Sancti Patricii' with the FAKE years 1180-1184 [web13]



Topper Zitat:

"Oder: Die Beschreibung des heiligen [FAKE]-Patrick, [Jesus-Fantasie]-Missionar von Irland („5. Jahrhundert“), geschrieben von H. von Saltrey, der den Ritter Owein aus dem Artus-Roman mitreiten lässt und zur theologischen Rechtfertigung seiner Fegefeuerstory den heiligen [FAKE]-Augustin und [den FAKE]-Papst Gregor den Grossen anführt (deren Schriften ich beide ins 16. Jahrhundert befördern möchte). Der Roman wurde erstmals 1624 durch Messingham und dann 1647 durch den Jesuiten Colgan in Löwen herausgegeben.
Le Goff, der die Verbindung mit Patrick für erfunden hält, beruft sich auf eine erste Erwähnung des Buches um 1180, wobei durch einige Wissenschaftler das Datum für diesen „Bestseller des Mittelalters“, der schon 1190 ins Französische übersetzt worden sei durch Marie de France, auch bis auf 1210 hinaufgesetzt wird. 1497 wird die Pilgerstätte des Patrick in Nordirland durch den damaligen Papst verdammt, 1632 (und mehrmals später noch) sogar gewaltsam zerstört, aber ab 1790 wieder stark besucht und ist heute einer der meistbesuchten Wallfahrtsorte Irlands. Aus all dem geht meines Erachtens klar hervor, dass sich die christliche Verehrung dieses Ortes und die dazugehörige Legende erst sehr spät geformt haben." (S.149)

Topper quote:

"Or: The description of the holy [FAKE]-Patrick, [Jesus-Fantasy]-missionary of Ireland ('5th century'), written by H. von Saltrey, who has the knight Owein ride alongside from the Arthurian Romance, and cites Saint [FAKE]-Augustine and [the FAKE]-Pope Gregory the Great for theological justification of his purgatory story (whose writings I would also like to push into the 16th century). The novel was first published in 1624 by Messingham and then in 1647 by the Jesuit Colgan in Leuven (Belgium).

Le Goff, who believes that the connection with Patrick is fabricated, refers to an initial mention of the book around 1180, although some scholars raise this date for this 'bestseller of the Middle Ages,' which is said to have been translated into French by Marie de France as early as 1190, even up to 1210. In 1497, Patrick's pilgrimage site in Northern Ireland was condemned by the then pope, and in 1632 (and several times later) it was violently destroyed, but from 1790 onwards it was heavily visited again and is today one of the most visited pilgrimage sites in Ireland. From all of this, it is clear to me that the Christian veneration of this place and the associated legend were only shaped very late.

[Going on pilgrimages because of a FAKE Jesus, a FAKE cross, a FAKE hell, but for the HOLY WINE - for celebrating "Christian" alcoholism – that's how they waste time and loose their brain in the FANTASY Church...]


7.4.3. WARNUNG vor Fälschungen

7.4.3.A. Die Warnungen von Abaelard: Fälscher-Werkstatt Kloster Saint-Denis bei Paris (F) - die Jesus-Fantasie-Kirche gibt es erst seit dem 11.Jh. - KEINE Originale vorhanden - die Manuskripte kommen alle vom 13.+14.Jh.

Topper Zitat:


7.4.3. WARNINGS about fakes

7.4.3.A. The warnings of Abaelard: forger workshop Monastery Saint-Denis near Paris (F) - the Jesus Fantasy church only exists since the 11th century - NO originals available - the manuscripts all come from the 13th and 14th centuries

Topper quote:


"Einige dieser Fälschungen wurden ja schon recht bald aufgedeckt. So hat Abaelard (im 12. Jahrhundert) schon klargestellt, dass in dem berühmten Kloster Saint Denis von Paris zahlreiche Fälschungen — häufig Karl dem Kahlen zugeschrieben — verfasst wurden. Und was ich gerade vorhin von Abt Odilon von Cluny  vermutete, scheint sich schon zu bestätigen: Der Mönch Jotsuald schrieb ihm zu, was Petrus Damiani wiederholte und Jacob a Voragine im 13. Jahrhundert in seine Goldene Legende aufnahm, nämlich dass man eifrig beten, fasten und spenden solle für die armen Seelen im Fegefeuer [die von der kriminellen Kirche systematisch DISKRIMINIERT werden]. Le Goff dazu (S. 173): »Aber als Jotsuald und Petrus Damiani das Leben des Odilon schrieben, war das Purgatorium noch nicht geboren.« Und der Verehrenswerte Beda, der das ein halbes Jahrtausend vorher schon aufgebracht haben soll, wohl auch nicht (geboren).
Denn — wieder Le Goff (S. 177): »Das 12. Jahrhundert ist das Jahrhundert der Explosion (Ausbruch) des lateinischen Christentums.« Eben! Vorher war die Kirche ein Jahrhundert lang ein Embryo, und davor lag sie im Paradies der Ungeborenen.
Aber wie wir schon wissen (S. 183): »Die Literatur des 12. Jahrhunderts ist belastet mit Apokryphen«, nämlich mit Texten, die früheren Autoren untergeschoben wurden, weil diese einen guten Ruf genossen. Die Originale fehlen allesamt. Die Manuskripte stammen frühestens aus dem 13. und 14. Jahrhundert, sagt Le Goff. Keine Einwände." (S.150)

Some of these forgeries were indeed uncovered quite early. Abaelard (in the 12th century) made it clear that numerous forgeries—often attributed to Charles the Bald — were created in the famous monastery of Saint Denis in Paris. And what I suspected earlier from Abbot Odilon of Cluny seems to be confirming itself: The monk Jotsuald wrote to him what Peter Damian repeated and Jacobus de Voragine included in his Golden Legend in the 13th century, namely that one should diligently pray, fast, and donate for the poor souls in purgatory [who are systematically DISCRIMINATED against by the criminal Church]. Le Goff comments on this (p. 173): 'But when Jotsuald and Peter Damian wrote the life of Odilon, purgatory had not yet been born.' And the Venerable Bede, who supposedly brought this up half a millennium earlier, likely had not been born either.
For — again Le Goff (p. 177): "The 12th century is the century of the explosion (outburst) of Latin Christianity." Exactly! Before that, the Church was an embryo for a century, and before that, it lay in the paradise of the unborn. But as we already know (p. 183): "The literature of the 12th century is burdened with apocrypha," namely texts that were attributed to earlier authors because they enjoyed a good reputation. The originals are all missing. The manuscripts date from at least the 13th and 14th centuries, says Le Goff. No objections.



7.4.4. Der heilige FAKE-Augustin von Hippo

7.4.4.A. Weitere FAKE-Fegefeuer-Visionen: Der FAKE-Augustin mit dem Fantasie-Gerichtstag

-- der FAKE-Augustin von Algerien (Hippo) - FAKE-Geburt 354 und FAKE-Tod 430 in Hippo Regius, heute Annaba (Algerien) [web04] - erfand eine "Prüfung und Reinigung" sowie einen Fantasie-Gerichtstag - dieses Konzept passt ins 13.Jh., vorher nicht  (S.150)

Topper Zitat:

"Für den heiligen Augustin begann die Prüfung und Reinigung der Gläubigen schon durch die Leiden hienieden auf Erden; im Jenseits wurde sie — vor dem Gerichtstag, sonst hätte es gar keinen Zweck — fortgesetzt. Das ist eine recht späte Entwicklung des Fegefeuerkonzepts, die ich nicht vor dem 13. Jahrhundert ansetzen würde." (S.150)


7.4.4. The holy FAKE Augustine of Hippo

7.4.4.A. Further FAKE purgatory visions: the FAKE Augustine with the Fantasy Day of Judgment

-- the FAKE Augustine of Algeria (Hippo) - FAKE birth 354 and FAKE death 430 in Hippo Regius, now Annaba (Algeria) [web04] - invented a "testing and purification" as well as a Fantasy Day of Judgment - this concept fits in the 13th century, not before (p. 150)

Topper quote:

"For Saint Augustine, the testing and purification of the faithful began already through sufferings here on earth; in the afterlife, it was continued - before the Day of Judgment, otherwise it wouldn't make any sense - This is a fairly late development of the concept of purgatory, which I would not date before the 13th century." (p. 150)



7.4.4.B. Weitere FAKE-Fegefeuer-Visionen: Der FAKE-Papst Gregor der Grosse mit Folter gegen "Schandtaten"

Topper Zitat:

"Gregor der Grosse geht da noch einen Schritt weiter: Schandtaten konnten durch Foltern direkt an den Orten, wo sie begangen worden waren, abgegolten werden. Das ist psychologisch durchaus plausibel, aber keineswegs spätantik, sondern frühestens Gedankengut der Renaissance." (S.150)


7.4.4.C. Dem FAKE-Augustin von Algerien wird noch ein FAKE-Traktat über Fürbitten und Almosten für Tote zugeschrieben

Topper Zitat:

"Übrigens, von Augustin gibt es sogar ein Traktat über die Fürbitten und Almosen für Tote: De cura pro mortuis gerenda. Hat das einmal jemand auf seine Herkunft untersucht?" (S.150)


7.4.4.B. Further FAKE purgatory visions: the FAKE Pope Gregory the Great with torture against "Shameful Acts"

Topper quote:

"Gregory the Great goes even further: Shameful acts could be expiated by torturing directly at the places where they were committed. This is psychologically quite plausible, but by no means late antique, rather at the earliest a concept of the Renaissance." (p.150)


7.4.4.C. The FAKE Augustine of Hippo is also attributed a FAKE treatise on intercessions and alms for the dead

Topper quote:

"By the way, Augustine even has a treatise on intercessions and alms for the dead: "On the care to be taken for the dead" (orig. Latin: "De cura pro mortuis gerenda"). Has anyone ever investigated its origin?" (p.150)



7.4.5. Die Verfolgung der "Christen" durch die kr. kath. Kirche, die das FAKE-Fegefeuer ablehnen - die "Ketzer"-Verfolgung ab dem 12.Jh.

7.4.5.A. Kirchenspaltung wegen dem kr. Fantasie-"Fegefeuer": Verfolgung der Passaginer - Albigenser - Waldenser - Paulikianer (Publikaner)

-- die Diskussion um Wiedergeburt und Himmelsreise kommt erst durch die kriminelle Vision eines "Fegefeuers" in Gang - und alle, die nicht an die "Fegefeuer"-Fantasie glauben, werden verfolgt [und auf das reale Fegefeuer, den Scheiterhaufen geworfen] (S.151)
-- die kriminelle Kirche wird zur Massenmörderin der eigenen "Christen" (S.151)


7.4.5. The persecution of "Christians" by the Roman Catholic Church, who reject the FAKE purgatory - the "heretic" persecution starting from the 12th century

7.4.5.A. Church schism due to the Roman Fantasy "purgatory": persecution of the Passaginians - Albigensians - Waldensians - Paulicians (Publicans)

-- The discussion about rebirth and the journey to heaven only begins due to the criminal vision of a "purgatory" - and all who do not believe in the "purgatory" Fantasy are persecuted [and thrown onto the real purgatory, the pyre] (p.151)
-- The criminal church becomes a mass murderer of its own "Christians" (p.151)Topper quote:



Topper Zitat:

"Der bekannte Ketzer Johannes Scotus Eriugena („ 9. Jahrhundert“) argumentiert höchst präzise über das Jenseits als »Nicht-Ort«, da die Seelen ja körperlos sind. Allerdings kommt diese Diskussion (wie auch der geniale Mann selbst) drei Jahrhunderte zu früh, denn im 12. Jahrhundert greift ein direkter Schüler von ihm, der mysteriöse Honorius von Autun, ein Ire in Regensburg, das Thema in derselben Weise »wieder« auf (Le Goff, S. 184). Dann allerdings ist es an der Tagesordnung, und dem Nachlass des Scotus wird nun endlich seitens der Kirche der Prozess gemacht. Man nimmt von jenem Zeitpunkt an ganz allgemein alle „Ketzer“ aufs Korn, nämlich alle jene Mitbürger, die sich zwar irgendwie als Christen fühlen, aber das Fegefeuer ablehnen. [und friedlich OHNE Fegefeuer-Wahn und OHNE Scheiterhaufen leben wollen, so wie in der Byzanz-Kirche].

Topper quote:

"The well-known heretic Johannes Scotus Eriugena ('9th century') argues very precisely about the afterlife as a 'non-place', since souls are, after all, incorporeal. However, this discussion (as well as the brilliant man himself) comes three centuries too early, for in the 12th century, a direct disciple of his, the mysterious Honorius of Autun, an Irishman in Regensburg, takes up the topic in the same way 'again' (Le Goff, p. 184). Then, however, it is on the agenda, and the church finally begins to take action against the legacy of Scotus. From that point on, all 'heretics' are generally targeted, namely all those fellow citizens who somehow feel like Christians but reject purgatory [and want to live peacefully WITHOUT the delusion of purgatory and WITHOUT the burning stakes, as in the Byzantine Church].



-- Da gab es die Passaginer, die noch stark judaisierend an Christus glauben wollten und Beschneidung und Altes Testament bevorzugten, bezeugt in den Jahren zwischen 1184 und 1291, vor allem in der Lombardei.
-- Parallel zu ihnen die wohlbekannten Albigenser (Katharer). Oder
-- die Anhänger von Petrus Walden, die Waldenser. Und dann
-- die Paulikianer, deren Name zu Publikaner verunstaltet wurde, womit man bald alle Ketzer bezeichnete.

Die meisten Gruppen waren Vegetarier, hielten es mit der Ehe recht frei (zumindest nicht als „Heiliges Sakrament“) und hatten diesen gemeinsamen Fehler: Das Fegefeuer kam ihnen absurd vor.

Ein Abtrünniger der Katharer, Rainer Saceoni, der 1250 Inquisitor der Kirche wurde und seine ehemaligen Glaubensbrüder verfolgte, hat dies als Anklagepunkt betont.

-- There were the Passagins who still wanted to believe in Christ with a strong Judaic influence and preferred circumcision and the Old Testament, evidenced in the years between 1184 and 1291, especially in Lombardy.
-- Parallel to them were the well-known Albigensians (Cathars). Or
-- the followers of Peter Waldo, the Waldensians. And then
-- the Paulicians, whose name was distorted to 'Publicans,' soon referring to all heretics.

Most groups were vegetarians, maintained a rather free attitude towards marriage (at least not as a 'holy sacrament') and shared this common mistake: they found purgatory absurd.

A renegade of the Cathars, Rainer Saceoni, who became an inquisitor of the Church in 1250 and persecuted his former fellow believers, emphasized this as an accusation.




7.4.5.B. Kirchenspaltung wegen dem Fantasie-"Fegefeuer": Die Byzanz-Kirche spaltet sich ab - Sitz Nizäa (Iznik) - das Konzil von Lyon 1274 macht das FAKE-Fegefeuer zum FAKE-Dogma - ein Propagandabuch von Dante "Göttliche Komödie" macht das FAKE-Fegefeuer populär - der kath. Kirchen-Terror setzt sich durch

Topper Zitat:

"1235 war die Diskussion ums Fegefeuer bereits Zankapfel mit der byzantinischen Kirche geworden, die damals im Exil in Nizäa [Iznik] sass (Konstantinopel befand sich in den Händen der „römischen“ Katholiken). Das Buch gegen die Irrtümer der Griechen, das eigentlich die Einheit der beiden Kirchen wieder herstellen sollte (1262), war eine »Sammlung von Falschem, Gefälschtem und falsch Zugeordnetem«, wie Le Goff (S. 381) sich ausdrückt. Auf dem lateinischen Konzil von Lyon 1274 wurde das Purgatorium zum Dogma erhoben.


7.4.5.B. Church schism due to the Fantasy 'purgatory': the Byzantine Church breaks away - seat of Nicaea (Iznik) - the Council of Lyon 1274 makes the FAKE purgatory a FAKE Dogma - a propaganda book by Dante "Divine Comedy" makes the FAKE purgatory popular - Catholic Church terror prevails

Topper quote:

"In 1235, the discussion about purgatory had already become a bone of contention with the Byzantine Church, which was then in exile in Nicaea [Iznik] (Constantinople was in the hands of the 'Roman' Catholics). The book against the errors of the Greeks, which was intended to restore the unity of the two churches (1262), was a 'collection of falsehoods, forgeries, and misattributions,' as Le Goff (p. 381) expresses it. At the Latin Council of Lyon 1274, purgatory was elevated to a dogma."



Nun fehlt nicht mehr viel: 1319 vollendet Dante seine Göttliche Komödie, und damit ist das christliche Fegefeuer fertig gebaut. Die Dreiteilung ist nun beschlossene Sache. Die erfrischende Wiese als Vorhimmel für die guten Christen ist verschwunden, es gibt sie nur (S.151) noch als zwei Wurmfortsätze:
-- den Limbus für ungetaufte Kinder und eine Art Wartesaal für antike Heiden, im Vorgefühl der nun einsetzenden Renaissance.
-- Die Heiligen und Märtyrer kommen dafür direkt in den Himmel, ohne Gerichtsverhandlung.
-- Diese völlige Abkehr von der jüdischen Eschatologie und die vernunftmässige Durchgestaltung der Jenseitswelt sind das Ergebnis langer Vorbereitungen, Streitschriften und Machtkämpfe mit viel Blutvergiessen, Folter und Vertreibung. In diesen Wehen ist die katholische Kirche entstanden. Nur durch die Abgrenzung gegen die vielen anderen Bewegungen konnte sie zu ihrer geschlossenen Form finden (S.152).

[Mit Scheiterhaufen, Folter, Inquisition, Hexenwahn, Judenvernichtung etc. - die Kirche ist die kriminellste Organisation der Welt].

Now there is not much left: in 1319, Dante completes his Divine Comedy [maybe he was well bribed by the Cath. Church for gloryfying the purgatory!] and with that, the Christian purgatory is fully constructed. The tripartition is now a settled matter. The refreshing meadow as a pre-heaven for good Christians has disappeared; it only exists (p. 151) as two appendices:
-- The limbo for unbaptized children and a kind of waiting room for ancient pagans, in anticipation of the approaching Renaissance.
-- Now, the Saints and martyrs go directly to heaven without trial.
-- This complete departure from Jewish eschatology and the rational structuring of the afterlife are the results of long preparations, polemics, and power struggles with much bloodshed, torture, and expulsion. In these pains, the Catholic Church was born. Only by distinguishing itself from many other movements could it find its closed form (p. 152).

[With stakes, torture, inquisition, witch mania, extermination of the Jews etc. - the church is the most criminal organization in the world].




7.4.6. Kirchenspaltung wegen der "Fegefeuer"-Fantasie: Der kr. Fegefeuer-Vatikan wird gegen die byzantinische Kirche hochkriminell

7.4.6.A. Kirchenspaltung wegen dem Fantasie-"Fegefeuer": Die kath. Kirche diskriminiert die byzantinische Kirche - verfälscht ihre Werke (!) - dichtet FAKE-Begründungen für "falsche Aussagen" hinzu - erklärt unangenehme Texte für "gefälscht" - spaltet einen Autor in 3 Autoren auf

-- der kriminelle Gay-Drogen-Vatikan wandte nun ALLE kriminellen Mittel und Manöver an, um die Byzantinische Kirche, die OHNE den Fegefeuer-Wahn [und OHNE Scheiterhaufen-Wahn] weiterleben wollte, zu verleumden, zu mobben und AUSzuschalten (S.152)

7.4.6. Church schism due to the Fantasy "purgatory": The criminal purgatory Vatican is highly criminal against the Byzantine Church

7.4.6.A. Church schism due to the Fantasy "purgatory": the Catholic Church discriminates against the Byzantine Church - distorts its works (!) - adds FAKE reasons for "false statements" - declares inconvenient texts as a "FAKE" - splits one author into 3 authors

-- the criminal Gay-Drug-Vatican now employed ALL criminal means and maneuvers to slander, bully, and ELIMINATE the Byzantine Church, which wanted to continue living WITHOUT the purgatory delusion [and WITHOUT the bonfire delusion] (p. 152)



Topper Zitat:

"Der baltische Theologe Adolf Harnack hat (1893, Einleitung) diese Wandlung des Kirchendogmas ganz deutlich ausgesprochen. Einst angesehene orthodoxe Schriftsteller fielen später in Ungnade. Man unterschlug ihre Werke, kopierte sie nicht mehr, beziehungsweise anders: Man legte ihnen neue Texte unter, um die Rechtgläubigkeit dieser Männer, die ja inzwischen zum Fundus des theologischen Apparates gehörten, zu beweisen. In Handschriften von Irenäus-Texten wurden Erwartungen des Tausendjahrreichs ausradiert, weil sie überfällig geworden waren. Bei der ständigen Umgestaltung der „ apostolischen“ Schriften behielt man manchmal nur die Titel und den Umfang bei, da diese in lexikalischen Werken verzeichnet waren. Wo Änderungen gar unmöglich waren, fügte man hinzu, der jeweilige Heilige habe zum Schutz der Kirche gelogen oder seinen Irrtum auf dem Totenbett bereut oder durch den Märtyrertod gesühnt.

Man schuf laufend neue Märtyrer, Konzilien und Schriftsteller, um dem Tagesgeschehen, das sich in der Renaissance mit rasender Geschwindigkeit wandelte, gerecht zu werden. So wandelte sich mit der Kirche auch ihr eigenes Bild von ihrer Entstehung. Wichtige Texte wurden überschattet durch die immer stärker ausgemalten Heiligenlegenden. Und es wurden unlautere Methoden angewendet, um gegnerische Schriften auszuschalten. „Schon“ Augustin arbeitete so. Man erklärte unangenehm gewordene Texte für gefälscht oder spaltete die Verfasser in zwei oder mehr Personen auf und behauptete, das echte Zeugnis sei verloren." (S.152)

Topper quote:

"The Baltic theologian Adolf Harnack stated this transformation of church dogma quite clearly (1893, Introduction). Formerly esteemed orthodox writers later fell into disfavor. Their works were suppressed, no longer copied, or rather: new texts were placed under their names to prove the orthodoxy of these men, who had meanwhile become part of the theological apparatus. In manuscripts of Irenaeus texts, expectations of the millennium were erased because they had become overdue. In the constant reshaping of the 'apostolic' writings, sometimes only the titles and the scope were retained, as these were recorded in lexicon works. Where changes were completely impossible, it was added that the respective saint had lied for the protection of the church or had repented his mistake on his deathbed or had atoned for it through martyrdom.

New martyrs, councils, and writers were continuously created to keep pace with the rapidly changing events of the Renaissance. Thus, with the Church, its own image of its origins also changed. Important texts were overshadowed by increasingly elaborated legends of saints. Underhanded methods were employed to eliminate opposing writings. 'Even' Augustine worked this way. Unpleasant texts were declared forgeries, or the authors were split into two or more persons, claiming that the true testimony was lost." (p.152)



7.4.6.B: Kirchenspaltung wegen Fantasie-"Fegefeuer": Die Diskriminierung eines Origenes - alte Konzilsakten als gefälscht bezeichnen - die Fälscherzeit in der Kirche fängt aber erst mit Fegefeuer-Wahn und Inquisition (samt Scheiterhaufen) an - Texte werden falschen Autoren untergeschoben

Topper Zitat:

"An Origenes („um 400“) wurde das durchpraktiziert: Rufinus schreibt im Vorwort seiner (S.152) Übersetzung der Principiis, die ehrwürdigen Sätze seien durch Ketzer verändert worden. Auch ganze Konzilsakten wurden als Fälschungen bezeichnet, wenn sie nicht mehr passten. Den Alten die Aufrichtigkeit absprechen und Fälschungen suggerieren ist aber nur möglich in einer Zeit, in der das gang und gäbe ist, nämlich in der Zeit der Inquisition, als Aufrichtigkeit gefährlich war und Lüge an der Tagesordnung. Die seltsame Tatsache, dass die Klöster so viele antik-heidnische Werke kopiert und bewahrt haben, jedoch sehr wenige altchristliche, löst Harnack im selben Sinne: Vor dem Heidentum brauchte sich die Kirche nicht zu fürchten, das war pass; nur die eigene Vergangenheit konnte gefährlich sein. Sie musste dauernd umgestaltet werden, den jeweiligen Erfordernissen der Gegenwart angemessen. Trotz aller Schärfe der Kritik sieht Harnack noch nicht, dass auch die heidnische Literatur grösstenteils neu geschaffen wurde. Man musste die „Kirchenväter“ ja in einen geschichtlichen Rahmen einbetten, ohne diesen würde die konstruierte Vergangenheit der Kirche in der Luft hängen.

[Adolf Harnack: Geschichte der altchristlichen Literatur bis Eusebius (1893; Berlin 2. Aufl. Leipzig 1958)]



7.4.6.B: Church splits due to Fantasy "purgatory": The discrimination against Origenes - calling ancient council documents shall be FAKES - the era of forgery in the Church, however, begins only with the purgatory madness and the Inquisition (including the stake) - texts are attributed to FAKE authors

Topper quote:

"In the case of Origenes (around 400), this was practiced: Rufinus writes in the preface to his (p. 152) translation of the Principiis that the venerable statements were altered by heretics. Entire council acts were also labeled as forgeries when they no longer fit. Questioning the sincerity of the ancients and suggesting forgeries, however, is only possible in a time when this is commonplace, namely in the time of the Inquisition, when honesty was dangerous and lies were the order of the day. The strange fact that the monasteries copied and preserved so many ancient pagan works, however very few ancient Christian ones, is explained by Harnack in the same sense:  The Church had no to be afraid of paganism, that was passive; only its own past could be dangerous. It had to be constantly reshaped to meet the demands of the present. Despite all the sharpness of the criticism, Harnack does not yet see that much of the pagan literature was largely newly created as well. One had to embed the 'Church Fathers' in a historical framework; without this, the constructed past of the Church would be left hanging in the air.

[Adolf Harnack: History of Early Christian Literature until Eusebius (1893; Berlin 2nd ed. Leipzig 1958)]



Harnack entschuldigt die »litterarischen Sünden« der Kirche mit dem »Kampf auf Leben und Tod« gegen Ketzer und Heiden. Das Ergebnis, sagt er, ist die Schaffung und Bewahrung des Alten und Neuen Testamentes. Wenn Harnack diese Aussage in ihren rechten Zeitraum angesiedelt hätte, also in die echten Ketzerkriege (gegen Juden, Moslems und Katharer), dann wäre sie identisch mit meinen eigenen Gedanken.
Grundsätzlich, sagt Harnack (§2), sind alle christlichen Schriften, die vor Nizäa [Iznik] verfasst sind, dem byzantinischen Dogma vollständig fremd und erforderten ständig verdrehende Auslegungen. Aber den naheliegenden Schluss, dass diese Texte dann gar nicht in jenen Rahmen gehören können, sondern in einen anderen, sei er römisch oder später, hat Harnack noch nicht gewagt. Fälschung und Rückprojektion sehr viel modernerer Ideen usw. hält er für die beste Erklärung, aber völlige Erfindung erkennt er noch nicht. Die Einzelheiten, die Harnack bestens darstellt, sprechen aber deutlich genug: Viele „Autoren des 2. und 3. Jahrhunderts“ wurden, damit sie an Gewicht gewännen, durch Euseb, Origenes, Pamphilus und andere zu Apostelschülern gemacht und damit um mehrere Generationen vorverlegt (S.153), obgleich Euseb und seine Kollegen das doch wirklich besser wissen müssten. Zwei Autoren namens Klemens oder drei Johannesse wurden übereinandergestapelt, was erst durch moderne Kritik wieder aufgelöst werden kann. Hätten die Autoren des 4. Jahrhunderts das ihren Zeitgenossen bieten können? Ich glaube nicht." (S.154)


Harnack excuses the 'literary sins' of the church with the 'life and death struggle' against heretics and heathens. The result, he says, is the creation and preservation of the Old and New Testaments. If Harnack had placed this statement in its rightful period, that is, in the actual heretic wars (against Jews, Muslims, and Cathars), then it would be identical to my own thoughts.
Essentially, says Harnack (§2), all Christian writings that were composed before Nicaea [Iznik] are completely foreign to Byzantine dogma and required constantly twisting interpretations. But the obvious conclusion that these texts cannot belong in that framework at all, but rather in another, whether Roman or later, Harnack has not yet dared to make. He considers forgery and retrojection of much more modern ideas, etc., to be the best explanation, but he does not yet recognize total invention. The details, which Harnack presents very well, speak clearly enough:
Many 'authors of the 2nd and 3rd centuries' were made disciples of the apostles by Eusebius, Origen, Pamphilus, and others, in order to gain weight, and thus were placed several generations earlier (p. 153), although Eusebius and his colleagues really should know better. Two authors named Clement or three men named John were piled on top of each other, which can only be resolved by modern criticism. Could the authors of the 4th century have offered this to their contemporaries? I don’t believe so.




7.4.6.C. Die FAKE-Konzilstexte von Nizäa (offiziel Jahr 325) und Chalcedon (offiziell Jahr 451) sind erst im 16.Jh. geschrieben - alte "Kirchenväter" werden zu "Ketzern" degradiert

Topper Zitat:

"Die Konzilsformeln von Nizäa und Chalcedon müssen übrigens sehr spät erfunden sein, wohl im 16. Jahrhundert erst, als man die Kirchenväter, die noch stark dagegen verstossen, wirklich nicht mehr umgestalten konnte. So blieb nur noch der Kunstgriff, Tertullian, Origenes und andere zu Ketzern zu erklären. Sogar Euseb wurde zeitweise zum Arianer abgestempelt." (S.154)


7.4.6.C. The FAKE council texts of Nicaea (official year 325) and Chalcedon (official year 451) were only written in the 16th century - old "Church Fathers" are degraded to "heretics"

Topper quote:

"The council formulas of Nicaea and Chalcedon must have been invented very late, probably only in the 16th century, when the Church Fathers, who still strongly opposed this, could really no longer be reshaped. Thus, the only trick left was to declare Tertullian, Origenes, and others to be heretics. Even Eusebius was temporarily branded as an Arian." (p.154)




7.5. Die Werke von FAKE-Dionysius Areopagita [ein Sufi fälscht einen Griechen]

7.5.1. Die Widersprüche beim FAKE-Dionysius von Athen

--  die ERFUNDENE Person Dionysius Areopagita (griech: Dionysios Areopagites) soll im 1. Jh. gelebt haben - FAKE-Geburt und FAKE-Tod sind unbekannt - als Beruf wird "Beisitzer in Athen" sowie "der zweite Bischof von Athen" erfunden - es wird eine FAKE-Bekehrung durch den FAKE-Paulus erfunden (FAKE-Apg 17,34), und der FAKE-Eusebius berichtet in seiner FAKE-Historia Ecclesiae 3,4 über den FAKE-Dionysius als FAKE-Bischof von Athen [web14]
-- in Athen erleidet der FAKE-Dionysius den Märtyrertod als Krönung seiner Karriere - die Dichtung seiner FAKE-Werke geschah wohl um 500 in Syrien mit der Erwähnung von Plotin und Proklos - es mischen sich "christliche Lehre und neuplatonische Spekulationen" (S.154)

Topper über die Widersprüche beim FAKE-Dionysius in Athen:


7.5. The works of FAKE Dionysius Areopagita [a Sufi is faking a Greek]

7.5.1. The contradictions with FAKE Dionysius of Athens

-- The INVENTED person Dionysius Areopagita (Greek: Dionysios Areopagites) is said to have lived in the 1st century - FAKE birth and FAKE death are unknown - as a profession, 'assessor in Athens' and 'the second bishop of Athens' are invented - a FAKE conversion by the FAKE Paul is fabricated (FAKE Acts 17:34), and the FAKE Eusebius reports in his FAKE "Historia Ecclesiae" 3:4 about the FAKE Dionysius as FAKE bishop of Athens [web14]
-- In Athens, the FAKE Dionysius suffers a FAKE martyrdom as the crowning of his FAKE career - the fiction of his FAKE works likely occurred around 500 in Syria with mentions of Plotinus and Proclus - 'Christian doctrine and Neoplatonic speculations' intermingle (p.154)

Topper on the contradictions with FAKE Dionysius in Athens:


"Mit einer aufschlussreichen Entdeckung möchte ich das Kapitel „Kirchenväter“ abschliessen:
Es geht um die grosse Wirkung der Bücher des Dionysius Areopagita (siehe Ritter in Camphausen 1991). Die erste lateinische Ausgabe erschien gedruckt in Florenz 1516. Dionysius wird in der [FAKE]-Apostelgeschichte (17, 34) genannt, wo er von [FAKE]-Paulus in Athen zum [FAKE]-Christentum bekehrt wird. Natürlich wurde er als [FAKE]-Bischof von Athen mit dem [FAKE]-Märtyrertod gekrönt. Die ihm zugeschriebenen [FAKE]-Schriften sind aber „wohl um 500 im palästinensischen Syrien“ entstanden [Quelle fehlt], denn in ihnen werden Plotin und Proklos verarbeitet. Da durchmischen sich christliche Lehre und neuplatonische Spekulationen, woraus sich ein gnostisch-mystisches Gebäude entwickelt. Johannes Scotus Eriugena (bis „877“) habe ihn viel abgeschrieben und ins Lateinische übersetzt. Ein Schlaumeier, der Abt Hilduin von Saint Denis (um „832“, also ein halbes Jahrhundert vorher), habe das erste vollständige lateinische Korpus hergestellt und den Areopagiten [den Dionysius] des 1. Jahrhunderts mit dem Heiligen und Märtyrer (um 250), dem das wichtigste Kloster Frankreichs geweiht ist, dem Bischof Dionysius (Denis), gleichgesetzt. Das ergab nun eine Dreieinigkeit in einer Person: den Apostelschüler D., den gleichnamigen Missionar Frankreichs 200 Jahre später und den unbekannten Schriftsteller in Syrien 300 Jahre darauf." (S.154)


"With a revealing discovery, I would like to conclude the chapter "Church Fathers":
It concerns the great impact of the books of Dionysius Areopagita (see Ritter in Camphausen 1991). The first Latin edition was printed in Florence in 1516. Dionysius is mentioned in the [FAKE]-Acts of the Apostles (17:34), where he is converted to [FAKE]-Christianity by [FAKE]-Paul in Athens. Of course, he was crowned as [FAKE]-Bishop of Athens with a [FAKE]-martyr's death. However, the writings attributed to him are believed to have originated "around 500 in Palestinian Syria" [source missing], as they integrate Plotinus and Proclus. Here, Christian doctrine and Neoplatonic speculations intermingle, resulting in a Gnostic-mystical structure. John Scotus Eriugena (until "877") reportedly copied a lot from him and translated it into Latin. A clever fellow, Abbot Hilduin of Saint Denis (around "832", which is half a century earlier) created the first complete Latin corpus and equated the Areopagite [Dionysius] of the 1st century with the saint and martyr (around 250), to whom the most important monastery in France is dedicated, Bishop Dionysius (Denis). This now resulted in a Trinity in one person: the apostolic disciple D., the eponymous missionary of France 200 years later, and the unknown writer in Syria 300 years thereafter." (p.154)



7.5.2. Der Autorenstreit um den FAKE-Dionysius: WER hat's geschrieben? - und eine FAKE-Sonnenfinsternis - und viele griechische Handschriften - der Autor ist wahrscheinlich ein Sufi aus Marokko - die FAKE-Werke des FAKE-Dionysius von Athen wurden im 13.Jh. geschrieben

Topper Zitat:


7.5.2. The authorship dispute over the FAKE Dionysius: WHO wrote it? - and a FAKE solar eclipse - and many Greek manuscripts - the author is likely a Sufi from Morocco - the FAKE works of the FAKE Dionysius of Athens were written in the 13th century

Topper quote:


"Wer die Werke wirklich schrieb, bleibt ein Geheimnis. Zwischendurch war längere Zeit auch der Ketzer Apollinar (4. Jahrhundert) Favorit im Autorenstreit. Spanische Jesuiten vertraten diese Meinung noch im 17. Jahrhundert. Pierre Abaelard (12. Jahrhundert) bestritt (Davy: Encyclopédie: S.154) die Personalunion dieser Dionysiusse,  und Lorenzo de Valla (1457) wies auf die unmöglichen Widersprüche hin: Kein Lateiner vor Gregor und kein älterer Grieche kannte diesen Dionysius. Dessen Behauptung, fern von Palästina die Sonnenfinsternis beim Tode Jesu gesehen zu haben, wurde durch Rückberechnung als Lüge entlarvt. Stutzig machen muss auch die hervorragende Überlieferungslage, die ganz ungewöhnlich ist: Es gibt über 150 griechische Handschriften, davon 120 vollständige! »Alle sind gleichzeitig bekannt geworden; und von späteren Bearbeitungen fehlt in der handschriftlichen Überlieferung, auch der (älteren) syrischen, jede Spur.« Selbst die in den Werken genannten anderen Schriften »hat es so gut wie sicher nie gegeben!« (Davy: Encyclopédie: S. 117)

"Who truly wrote the works remains a mystery. For a long time, the heretic Apollinar (4th century) was also a favorite in the authorship debate. Spanish Jesuits maintained this opinion as late as the 17th century. Pierre Abaelard (12th century) disputed (Davy: Encyclopédie: p.154) the personal union of these Dionysii, and Lorenzo de Valla (1457) pointed out the impossible contradictions: No Latin speaker before Gregory and no older Greek knew this Dionysius. His claim to have seen the solar eclipse at the death of Jesus far from Palestine was debunked as a lie through retro-calculation. The excellent situation of manuscript tradition, which is quite unusual, must also raise eyebrows: There are over 150 Greek manuscripts, of which 120 are complete! 'All became known at the same time; and there is no trace in the manuscript tradition, even in the (older) Syriac, of later revisions.' Even the other writings mentioned in the works "most likely never existed!" (Davy: Encyclopedia: p. 117)




Was machen wir aus diesem Durcheinander, in dem drei fiktive Personen ein Werk vertreten, das sicher von keinem von ihnen stammt und das nur deshalb so grosse Autorität besessen hat, weil es einem dieser sagenhaften Märtyrer zugeschrieben wurde? Seine Schriften »übten auf das abendländische Mittelalter eine fast nur noch mit Aristoteles und Augustin vergleichbare Faszination aus«. (Davy: Encyclopédie: S. 124)
Es ist gezeigt worden, dass weder Aristoteles noch Augustin im Mittelalter bekannt waren und dass die tatsächlich greifbare Diskussion um die Schriften des Dionysius nicht vor dem 13. Jahrhundert beginnt, zugleich mit der Aufnahme des Aristoteles (über das islamische Córdoba).

Eine Textprobe aus seinem Werk Über die mystische Theologie zeigt uns in wenigen Sätzen, wohin er gehört:



What do we make of this mess, in which three fictional characters represent a work that surely does not originate from any of them and has only possessed such great authority because it was attributed to one of these legendary martyrs? His writings 'exerted an almost unparalleled fascination on the Western Middle Ages, comparable only to that of Aristotle and Augustine.' (Davy: Encyclopédie: p. 124)

It has been shown that neither Aristotle nor Augustine were known in the Middle Ages and that the actual tangible discussion around the writings of Dionysius does not begin before the 13th century, coinciding with the introduction of Aristotle (via Islamic Córdoba [they were Berbers]). (p.155)

A sample text from his work "On Mystical Theology" shows us in just a few sentences where he belongs:



»Hinausschreitend aus der Welt, wo man gesehen wird und wo man sieht, dringt Moses ein ins wahre mystische Dunkel der Unwissenheit. Dort stillt er sein drängendes Wissen, entgleitet vollkommen jeder Art von Ergriffensein oder Vision, denn er gehört nun ausschliesslich dem, der jenseits von allem ist. Er gehört nicht mehr sich selbst und auch niemandem ausserhalb seiner selbst, sondern ist verbunden durch sein Bestes mit dem, der jenseits der Erkenntnisse ist, da er allem bejahenden Wissen entsagt hat und dank dieser Unwissenheit Einsicht hat in das, was jenseits des Wissens liegt.« (zitiert nach Marie-Madeleine Davy: Encyclopédie des mystiques (4 Bände, Paris 1972), S. 478, meine Übers.)

Oder knapp formuliert: Hier ist Gott nicht mehr der Gegenstand der mystischen Vision, sondern Gott ist die Vereinigung selbst, die (S.155) dem Mystiker unverständlich bleiben muss. Wer könnte das geschrieben haben? In welche Zeit und Kultur würde das passen? Die Einbettung in das Moses-Geschehen am Sinai ist natürlich nur stilistischer Rahmen. Asin Palacios, der spanische Gelehrte und Kenner des Sufismus, hat den Fingerzeig (1931, Kap. X) gegeben: Es war der „Grösste Meister“, der andalusische Sufi Ibn Arabi (1165-1240). Der hier zitierte Text könnte eine freie Übersetzung aus den Futuhat el Mekkiya sein. Nicht nur sinngemäss, sondern bis in die einzelnen Ausdrücke hinein stimmen diese mystischen Gedanken überein." (S.156)

"Stepping out of the world, where one is seen and where one sees, Moses penetrates into the true mystical darkness of ignorance. There he quenches his pressing knowledge, completely escaping every form of being entranced or vision, for he now belongs exclusively to the one who is beyond all. He no longer belongs to himself or to anyone outside of himself, but is connected through his best with the one who is beyond knowledge, having renounced all affirmative knowledge and, thanks to this ignorance, has insight into what lies beyond knowledge." (quoted from Marie-Madeleine Davy: Encyclopédie des mystiques (4 volumes, Paris 1972), p. 478, my translation.)

Or to put it briefly: Here God is no longer the object of the mystical vision, but God is the union itself, which (p.155) must remain incomprehensible to the mystic. Who could have written that? What time and culture would that fit into? The embedding in the Moses event at Sinai is, of course, only a stylistic framework. Asin Palacios, the Spanish scholar and connoisseur of Sufism, has given the hint (1931, chap. X): It was the "Greatest Master", the Andalusian Sufi Ibn Arabi (1165-1240). The text quoted here could be a free translation from the Futuhat el Mekkiya. These mystical thoughts agree not only in their meaning, but down to the individual expressions." (p.156)



Und noch etwas haben die beiden gemeinsam, Dionysius und Ibn Arabi, was sonst fast nirgendwo in dieser ausgeprägten Weise vorkommt: Beide schreiben und zitieren erotische Hymnen, in denen Gott sich in der Schönheit der Frau offenbart. Der Sufi-Meister lebte später im Orient und starb in Damaskus, aber seine Ideen wurden vor allem im Maghreb und in Andalusien aufgegriffen und weitergeführt. Der Wirkunsgbereich der Schriften des Dionysius war vor allem Frankreich, Süd- und Westdeutschland und Norditalien. Ich denke, dass der Weg über Andalusien geführt hat.

Dann überrascht auch nicht mehr, dass der vorhin zitierte Autor Ritter mit begeisterten Worten auf den hochstrebenden gotischen Kirchenbau und die Papstbulle von 1302, die für die Kirche den Status einer Grossmacht beansprucht, als direkte Folgen der Dionysius-Rezeption hinweist. Die Mystik des Dionysius trägt deutlich sufische Züge und wurde von Meister Eckehart übernommen.

Jede Zeit hat ihren eigenen Geist. Wenn den Theologen heute die Zurückverlegung dieser Schriften ins 1. Jahrhundert unsinnig erscheint, ins 3. auch schon sehr zweifelhaft, ins 6. aber noch korrekt, dann müssen wir wohl noch lange warten, bis man ihre Entstehungszeit in dem Jahrhundert sieht, in dem sie ihre erste und grösste Wirkung entfalteten, dem 13." (S.156)



And there is one more thing that the two, Dionysius and Ibn Arabi, have in common, which is rarely found elsewhere in such a pronounced way: both write and quote erotic hymns in which God reveals Himself in the beauty of a woman. The Sufi master lived later in the Orient and died in Damascus, but his ideas were primarily taken up and further developed in the Maghreb and Andalusia. The area of influence of Dionysius's writings was mainly France, southern and western Germany, and northern Italy. I believe that the path led through Andalusia.

Then it is no longer surprising that the previously cited author Ritter enthusiastically refers to the aspiring Gothic church architecture and the papal bull of 1302, which claims the status of a great power for the church, as direct consequences of the reception of Dionysius. The mysticism of Dionysius clearly has Sufi traits and was adopted by Mastro Eckhart [missing in the register of literature].

Every era has its own spirit. If theologians today [year 2000] find it senseless to date these writings back to the 1st century, already very questionable for the 3rd, but still correct for the 6th, then we will likely have to wait a long time before their origin is recognized in the century in which they had their first and greatest impact, the 13th.

[The Church defined its world domination in 1494 with the Treaty of Tordesillas. Pride comes before a fall].

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