Mentioned literature
Books
-- Book by Miguel Asin Palacios: The Christianized Islam
(orig. Spanish: El Islam cristianizado); Madrid 1931
-- Book by Günter Lüling: On the first Quran (orig.
German: Über den Urqur'an); Erlangen 1974; 2nd edition
1993
-- Book by Günter Lüling: The Rediscovery of the Prophet
Muhammad (orig. German:
Die
Wiederentdeckung des Propheten Muhammad);
Erlangen 1981
-- Book by Günter Lüling: The Christian Cult at the
Pre-Islamic Kaaba building (orig. German:
Der christliche Kult an der vorislamischen
Kaaba); Erlangen 1992
-- Book by Ignacio Olagüe: The Islamic Revolution in the
West (orig. Spanish: La revolución islámica en occidente);
Barcelona 1974
-- Encyclopedia of Islam (orig. German:
Enzyklopädie des Islam); 4 volumes;
Leiden-Leipzig 1913-1934
Books by the Spanish historian Ignacio Olagüe:
-- The Spanish Decadence (orig. ESP: La decadencia
española); 4 volumes; 1950
-- The Arabs never invaded Spain (orig. French: Les Arabes
n'ont jamais envahi l'Espagne); 1969
-- The Islamic Revolution in the West (orig. ESP: La
revolución islámica en occidente); Barcelona 1974
Articles
-- Article by Miguel Asin Palacios: Logia et Agrapha D.
Jesu; In: Patrologia Orientalis XIII, 3, Paris 1916
-- Article by Uwe Topper: Portuguese buildings in the High
Atlas [mountain range in Morocco] (orig. German:
Portugiesenbauten im Hohen Atlas [Gebirge
in Marokko]); In: Alomgaren XXIV / XXV, pp.
335-344; Hallein 1994
-- Article by Uwe Topper: On some oral traditions of the
Imazighen of the High Atlas in Morocco (orig. ESP: Acerca
de algunas tradiciones orales de los Imazighen del Alto
Atlas marroquí); In: Yearbook of the University of Cádiz;
Spain 1998
-- Book by Uwe and Uta Topper: Rock Art in the Province of
Cádiz (orig. ESP: Arte rupestre de la Provincia de Cádiz);
Cádiz (Spain) 1988
Content
11: Early Islam [FAKE]
11.1. How Islam was
emerging: 3 factors
11.1.1. Orientalist Asin Palacios sees 3
factors: Neoplatonism - gnosis (early versions)
- Christian asceticism
11.1.2. Orientalist Lüling sees Islam with
Mohammed fantasy AFTER Jesus fantasy
Christianity - and a development of at least 150
years
11.2. Quran analysis
11.2.1. Quran analysis: some stanzas originate
from "Christian" liturgy from Syria and Ethiopia
11.2.2. Quran analysis: The "Christ legend" is
partially included - but the Fantasy Trinity is
not
11.3. Architectural proofs
of Islam: "Christianity" came first - and
there are contradictions+strange things
11.3.1. Architectural evidence: St. Mary's
church in Mecca - is converted into the mosque
in Mecca
11.3.2. Architectural evidence: Alhambra in
Córdoba
with round arches that existed BEFORE the
claimed Arab visit - with columns that should
NOT be there - Alhambra is NOT a prayer hall,
but something COMPLETELY DIFFERENT
11.4. There was NEVER ANY
Arab occupation of southern Spain -
everything is INVENTED by criminal
"Christians"
11.4.1. Historian Olagüe says clearly: The Arab
invasion is INVENTED by "Christian historians"
in order to propagate a FAKE "reconquest" -
there are novels with matrix "legend motifs" and
"round dates" of 25 and 50 - the "Christian"
history fakers e.g. Rodrigo Jiménez de Rada -
and the "Christians" also INVENTED even Arab
historians, e.g. Rasis from Córdoba
11.4.2. Criminal "Christians" ARE INVENTING a
lot: The FABRICATED FAKE historian Mr. Isodor
Pacense - the FABRICATED FAKE historian Mr. San
Ildefonso - FABRICATED FAKE battles against
Islam on the Iberian Peninsula
11.5. Muslims are said to
have been in Spain since 711, but Islam only
came 200 years later (!)
11.5.1. FAKER monks ARE INVENTING invasions for
Spain, councils, regulations, emirs, caliphs,
bishops, church fathers, and metropolitans, etc.
11.5.2. The criminal Fantasy of the "Purgatory"
is also present in the Mohammed Fantasy Islam
11.5.3. "Christians" are inventing a "cloak of
Saint Martin"
11.6. When Islam was coming
up [Islam exists from the 10th century, NOT
before]
11.6.1. Islam needed 150 years to form itself -
existence since the 10th century
11.6.2. Morocco with the Berber Empire of the
Barghawatas 700 to 1059 - Berber=Imasirs -
Berber religion=mixed of Berber, Jewish, and
Byzantine
11.6.3. The FAKE Song of Roland from France
against all Muslims in Spain - they were BERBERS
- and pre-Islam was mixed
11.6.4. Iran with the fire cult of Zoroaster -
hardly any archaeological findings of the
Iranian Zoroastrians are available - flight to
India
11.7. Moses Fantasy Judaism
since 1021
11.8. The Islamic center
states: Islam exists since 930 only
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Chapter 11: Early Islam [FAKE]
11.1. How Islam was emerging: 3 factors
11.1.1. Orientalist Asin Palacios sees 3 factors:
Neoplatonism - gnosis (early versions) - Christian
asceticism
-- the Spanish orientalist
Asin Palacios
(1871-1944 [web02]) says: 3 factors are said to have
favored the emergence of Islam: 1) Neoplatonism - 2)
Gnosis (precursors) - 3) Christian asceticism (p.233)
--
Miguel Asin y Palacios (born in 1871 in
Zaragoza - died on Aug 12, 1944 in San Sebastián, Spain),
Latinized Michael Asin et Palacios, Arabic Asīn Balāthīus
(أسين بلاثيوس) - was an Islamic scholar, Arabist,
comparative religious scholar and Roman Catholic scholar.
Jesus Fantasy priest - his book "The Christianized Islam"
(orig. Spanish: "El Islam cristianizado" - 1931) is an
important study of Sufism in southern Spain [web02]
Topper Zitat:
"Die Faktoren, die der herausragende spanische
Orientalist Asin Palacios (1931, S.
125)*
Buch von Miguel Asin Palacios: El Islam cristianizado;
Madrid 1931
als Elemente bei der Entstehung des Islams anführt,
lassen aufhorchen, erst recht, wenn man bedenkt, dass
dieser Priester seinerzeit eine vorsichtige
Ausdrucksweise wählen musste, um nicht der kirchlichen
Verdammung anheimzufallen. Er nennt drei Grundzüge, die
im orientalischen Milieu zwischen Ägypten und Persien
zur geistigen Gestalt des Islams führten:
1. den Neuplatonismus aus Alexandria, der
nicht nur als Philosophie, sondern als Theosophie und
Theurgie wirkte, besonders in seiner spätesten Form
durch
Jamblichos und Proklos; dann
2. die Gnosis, eine seltsame Mischung aus
hellenischen und orientalischen Elementen, die keine
Sekte bildete, sondern nur ein mystisches System; und
schliesslich
3. die christliche Askese, die ebenfalls
keine Religion war, sondern eine praktische Lebensform,
wie sie von den frühen Mönchen vorgelebt wurde." (S.233)
Topper Quote:
"The Factors That the Outstanding Spanish Orientalist
Asin
Palacios (1931, p. 125)*
Book by Miguel Asin Palacios: El Islam cristianizado;
Madrid 1931
as elements in the emergence of Islam make one sit up and
take notice, especially when one considers that this
priest had to choose a cautious way of expressing himself
in order not to fall prey to ecclesiastical condemnation.
He names three basic features that led to the spiritual
form of Islam in the oriental milieu between Egypt and
Persia:
1.
Neoplatonism from Alexandria, which
worked not only as philosophy, but as theosophy and
theurgy, especially in its latest form by
Jamblichos and Proclus; then
2. the
Gnosis, a strange mixture of
Hellenic and Oriental elements, which did not form a sect,
but only a mystical system; and finally
3.
Christian asceticism, which was also not
a religion, but a practical way of life, as exemplified by
the early monks." (p.233)
-- buddhistische Einflüsse
sind im Islam auch möglich, aber Einflüsse aus dem
Judentum oder byzantinischem Christentum sind NICHT
möglich, denn die gab's noch gar nicht (S.233)
Topper Zitat:
"Am Rande dürfte der Buddhismus eine
Rolle gespielt haben. Das wären die Grundelemente: Theosophie,
Gnosis und Derwischtum (asketische
Lebensgemeinschaft [web01]). Aber — Judaismus
oder byzantinisches Christentum kommen dabei nicht
vor, weil (Asin hat das nicht so gesagt,
aber es ist in seinem Text enthalten) es damals diese
religiösen Systeme noch gar nicht gab! Sie entstanden ja
gerade erst mit dem Islam gemeinsam, in gegenseitiger
Befruchtung und Abgrenzung." (S.233)
--
Buddhist influences are also possible in
Islam, but influences from Judaism or Byzantine
Christianity are NOT possible, because they didn't exist
yet (p.233)
Topper Quote:
"
Buddhism may have played a role on the
sidelines. These would be the basic elements:
Theosophy,
Gnosis and Dervishism (ascetic community
[web01]). But —
Judaism or Byzantine Christianity
are not mentioned here, because (Asin did not
say so, but it is contained in his text) these religious
systems did not even exist at that time! They have only
just emerged together with Islam, in mutual fertilization
and demarcation." (p.233)
11.1.2. Orientalist Lüling sieht den Islam mit
Mohammed-Fantasie NACH dem Jesus-Fantasie-Christentum -
und eine Entwicklung von mindestens 150 Jahren
-- Orientalist
Günther Lüling hat die
Baugeschichte im Islam untersucht, der Kaaba (Der
christliche Kult an der vorislamischen Kaaba 1992), und
hat die Urquellen untersucht (Über den Urqur'an 1974/1993)
-- Günter Lüling (1928 Bulgarien bis 2014 Erlangen), dt.
Theologe, Arabist, Staatswissenschaftler,
Islamwissenschaftler, zeitweise Direktor des
Goethe-Instituts in Aleppo (Syrien), schuf analytische
Studien zum Anfang des Korans [web03]
-- Buch von Günter Lüling: Über den Urqur'an; Erlangen
1974; 2. Auflage 1993
-- Buch von Günter Lüling: Die Wiederentdeckung des
Propheten Muhammad; Erlangen 1981
-- Buch von Günter Lüling: Der christliche Kult an der
vorislamischen Kaaba; Erlangen 1992
-- Lüling meint, der Islam sei eine Variation des
Jesus-Fantasie-Christentums aus dem
Arianismus
(S.233)
-- Lüling meint, ohne das Jesus-Fantasie-Christentum hätte
sich kein Mohammed-Fantasie-Islam entwickeln können und
der Entstehungsvorgang habe
mindestens 150 Jahre
gedauert - und haufenweise Kirchen wurden schon früher in
Moscheen umgewandelt (S.234)
11.1.2. Orientalist Lüling sees Islam with Mohammed
fantasy AFTER Jesus fantasy Christianity - and a
development of at least 150 years
-- Orientalist
Mr. Günther Lüling
has examined the building history in Islam, the Kaaba (The
Christian Cult at the Pre-Islamic Kaaba 1992), and has
examined the original sources (Über den Urqur'an
1974/1993)
-- Günter Lüling (1928 Bulgaria to 2014 Erlangen), German
theologian, Arabist, political scientist, Islamic scholar,
for a time director of the Goethe Institute in Aleppo
(Syria), created analytical studies on the beginning of
the Koran [web03]
-- Book by Günter Lüling: Über den Urqur'an; Erlangen
1974; 2nd edition 1993
-- Book by Günter Lüling: The Rediscovery of the Prophet
Muhammad; Erlangen 1981
-- Book by Günter Lüling: The Christian Cult at the
Pre-Islamic Kaaba; Erlangen 1992
-- Lüling thinks that Islam is a variation of the
Jesus-fantasy-Christianity from
Arianism
(p.233)
-- Lüling thinks that without the
Jesus-Fantasy-Christianity no Mohammed-Fantasy-Islam could
have developed and the process of creation would have
taken
at least 150 years - and heaps of
churches were already converted into mosques before
(p.234)
Topper Quote:
"Another learned orientalist,
Günther Lüling,
has found corresponding indications in two ways:
1. by examining the architectural history of the central
sanctuary of Islam, the Kaaba (1992),
* Book by Günter Lüling:
Der christliche Kult an
der vorislamisches Kaaba; Erlangen 1992
and
2. by a breakdown of the original sources from which the
Koran is composed (1974).
* Book by Günter Lüling:
About the first Quran
(orig. German:
Über den Urqur'an); Erlangen
1974; 2nd edition 1993
Both research results surprise the scientific community,
but will gradually prevail because they testify to a deep
insight into the true context. Lüling sees the emergence
of this youngest world religion as
part of the
history of the church, and in particular as a
history of heresy from the environment of Arianism.
Instead of the officially taught (p.233) lightning-like
spread of Islam Lüling assumes a development process of
at
least 150 years as a basic prerequisite. When
this process is supposed to have taken place is irrelevant
to him. Only this much is certain: Islam belongs directly
to Christian development and is inconceivable without it."
(p.234)
Topper Zitat:
"Ein anderer gelehrter Orientalist,
Günther Lüling,
hat entsprechende Hinweise auf zwei Wegen gefunden:
1. durch die Untersuchung der Baugeschichte des zentralen
Heiligtums des Islams, der Kaaba (1992),
*
Buch von Günter Lüling: Der
christliche Kult an der vorislamischen Kaaba;
Erlangen 1992
und
2. durch eine Aufgliederung der Urquellen, aus denen der
Koran zusammengesetzt ist (1974).
*
Buch von Günter Lüling: Über
den Urqur'an; Erlangen 1974; 2. Auflage 1993
Beide Forschungsergebnisse überraschen die Fachwelt,
werden sich aber schrittweise durchsetzen, weil sie von
tiefer Einsicht in die wahren Zusammenhänge zeugen. Lüling
sieht den Entstehungsvorgang dieser jüngsten Weltreligion
als
Teil der Kirchengeschichte, und zwar
besonders als
Ketzergeschichte aus dem Umfeld des
Arianismus. Statt der offiziell gelehrten
(S.233) blitzartigen Ausbreitung des Islams nimmt Lüling
einen Entwicklungsvorgang von
mindestens 150 Jahren
als Grundvoraussetzung an. Wann dieser Vorgang abgelaufen
sein soll, ist ihm dabei gleichgültig. Nur soviel steht
fest: Der Islam gehört direkt zur christlichen Entwicklung
und ist ohne diese nicht denkbar." (S.234)
[Eine kriegerische Geisteskrankheit
provoziert eine zweite].
11.2. Quran analysis
11.2.1. Quran analysis: some stanzas originate from
"Christian" liturgy from Syria and Ethiopia
Topper quote (translation):
"Similarly, he [orientalist Mr. Lüling] can prove from
individual stanzas in the Quran that there are
Syrian
and Ethiopian hymns included, as they were
sung by early Christians." (p.234)
11.2.2. Quran analysis: The "Christ legend" is
partially included - but the Fantasy Trinity is not
Topper quote (translation):
"The rule of angels (angelic rule), the form of the
Christ
legend (without the crucifixion yet) and the
lack
of knowledge of the doctrine of the Trinity
also point to an early form of Christianity that must have
arisen at that time, in a way that has nothing to do with
our current view of the upcoming of churches." (p.234)
11.3. Architectural proofs of Islam:
"Christianity" came first - and there are
contradictions+strange things
11.3.1. Architectural evidence: St. Mary's church in
Mecca - is converted into the mosque in Mecca
Topper Quote:
"With precise evidence, Mr. Lüling shows us that the
mosque
in Mecca was first a church of St. Mary and
received its present shape in several construction
stages." (p.234)
11.3.2. Architectural evidence: Alhambra in Córdoba
with round arches that existed BEFORE the claimed
Arab visit - with columns that should NOT be there -
Alhambra is NOT a prayer hall, but something COMPLETELY
DIFFERENT
-- also the Spanish historian
Ignacio Olagüe
dealt with the origins of Christianity and the Quran and
at the end, some news were shown to him which contradict
to the standard historical vision of the cr. Vatican
(p.234)
--
Ignacio Olagüe Videla (b. 1903 San
Sebastián - d. 1974 in Játiva) - was a Spanish
paleontologist (fossilology [web05]) and historian [web04]
Topper quote:
"On the basis of the architectural history of another
famous mosque, that of the Umayyad caliph Abd-your-Rahman
in Córdoba, the philosopher of history
Olagüe
(1974)* shows -
* Book by Ignacio Olagüe: Islamic revolution in the West
(orig. Spanish: La revolución islámica en occidente);
Barcelona 1974
he was a pupil of Spengler - that there are many things
that cannot be right here. The famous
horseshoe
arch did not come from Syria, but has been one
of the well-known stylistic elements on the Iberian
Peninsula for a long time before the Arabs came there."
(p.234)
-- and the columns in the Alhambra should not be there at
all - so the hall probably served another purpose at first
(p.234)
Topper Quote:
"What amazes him most is the
forest of columns
of the great [FAKE] mosque [
Alhambra],
because for an Islamic [FAKE] prayer, the basic condition
is a free view to the [FAKE] pryaer leader. But the
pillars prevent that! So, Olagüe concludes with many other
arguments, that t
his house of prayer is
neither Islamic, nor Catholic, nor Jewish; it must belong
to a religion of which we hardly have a clue today. It can
probably be vaguely described as Arianism, more cannot be
stated." (p.234)
[One can assume that Catholic criminal Christianity burned
all the sources of previous religions - because Catholics
are simply NOT so tolerant but liket pire festivals].
11.4. There was NEVER ANY Arab occupation
of southern Spain - everything is INVENTED by criminal
"Christians"
11.4.1. Historian Olagüe says clearly: The Arab
invasion is INVENTED by "Christian historians" in order
to propagate a FAKE "reconquest" - there are novels with
matrix "legend motifs" and "round dates" of 25 and 50 -
the "Christian" history fakers e.g. Rodrigo Jiménez de
Rada - and the "Christians" also INVENTED even Arab
historians, e.g. Rasis from Córdoba
-- The analyses of the Spanish historian
Ignacio
Olagüe (1903-1974 [web08]) say clearly:
Criminal "Christian" Jesus Fantasy monks have
INVENTED
an Arab invasion of southern Spain in order to
propagate a reconquest (p.234)
Books by the Spanish historian Ignacio Olagüe are:
-- Spanish Decadence (orig. ESP: La decadencia española);
4 volumes; 1950
-- The Arabs never made an invasion of Spain (orig.
French: Les Arabes n'ont jamais envahi l'Espagne); 1969
-- The Islamic Revolution in the West (orig. ESP: La
revolución islámica en occidente); Barcelona 1974
-- For their claim of an Arab invation, the criminal monks
simply misused "Arab-Islamic missionary writings" from the
11th and 12th centuries [which were probably provoked as a
counter-reaction to the criminal crusades] (p.234)
-- In fact it was the
Berbers who ruled in
southern Spain, and the "Christians" with the royal house
of Castile first defeated the
Goths
[Catalonia], and then threw the
BERBERS out
of Spain and
NOT the Muslims because there
were NO Muslims in Spain (p.235)
Topper quote:
"I would like to summarize
Olagüe's new
thoughts as follows: The alleged Arab invasion of Spain
("711") was first
brought into the world by
Christian historians by expanding an obscure
Arab legend and presenting it as a fact in order to
prepare the ground for a Catholic "reconquista"
(re-occupation) of Andalusia.
Arabic-Islamic
missionary writings of the 11th and 12th centuries
were used as models, in which an irrational divine power
proclaimed the triumphal march of Islam (p.234).
The self-confidence of the Goths, humiliated by
Berber
rule, was able to breathe a sigh of relief and
at the same time create a "historically" justified
justification for the opposite process, the conquest of
the southern territories. A bad story of treachery and
women's revenge was invented, which had cost the last
Gothic
king Roderic the crown; and a heroic nephew,
Pelagius,
who then struck back, which ended happily 781 years later
with the
conquest of Granada." (p.235)
-- the reports of an Islamic-Arab invasion in Spain are a
total "Christian" INVENTION with
legendary
motifs according to the
matrix
of legends, with
caliphs without first names,
with
reign periods with round numbers 25 and 50
- and beautiful details about the caliphs are NEVER
reported, but always only crimes [the criminal Jesus
Fantasy monks were thus also criminally biased with their
INVENTIONS] (p. 235)
Topper Quote:
"The earliest chronicles that tell of the Islamic conquest
are
pure legends and novels, filled with
well-known
mythical motifs, as they appear
in
1001 Nights or in
Procopius'
Gothic Story. The caliphs are often listed
only by name, their years in office are always again and
again round numbers of
25 or 50, and when
details are told, they are
incredible crimes."
(p.235)
-- [in the Renaissance], there were many "Christian"
history fakers against the Muslims INVENTING a FAKE
invasion of Spain, the most famous one of these fakers is
Mr.
Jiménez of Rada (p.235)
-- Data about Jiménez of Rada: The
history faker
Rodrigo Jiménez de Rada, also called "
El
Toledano", born in 1170 about in Spain in Rada
or Puente la Reina in Navarre province, died in 1247 in
Vienne (France) - his professions were: Jesus Fantasy
churchman (!), military, historian and statesman in
Navarre and Castile [web06]
-- Moreover the "Christian" falsifiers of history have
even INVENTED "Arab historians", e.g. Mr. FAKE
Rasis
from Córdoba, whose many books are all said to
have been lost (!), but in a Portuguese FAKE translation,
which is supposed to have been preserved (!), there is an
Andalusian FAKE ruler list from 1344 (!) (p.235)
-- the Mossad Wikipedia faithfully reports the life data
of Mr. FAKE Rasis: "
Áhmad ibn Muhámmad al-Razi
(in Arab: احمد ابن محمد الرازي), he lived his FAKE life
exclusively in Córdoba with FAKE birth 887, FAKE death
955), known as
al-Tariji (the chronicler) -
among the "Christian" historians he was also called the "
Moor
Rasis" (el "moro Rasis") - professions
attributed to him are: Andalusian historian with literary
work in the time of the Caliph Abderramán III [and the
Caliph is probably also INVENTED by the "Christian"
falsifiers of history!] [web07]
Topper summarizes the "Christian" faking madness in Spain
in a nutshell:
"We even know some of the Christians who produced or
falsified such Arabic texts and then circulated them as
genuine:
Jiménez of Rada (1180-1247) is the
best known. One of the fictitious Arab historian is – as
already mentioned in chapter 5 – the Cordobenser
Rasis,
who is said to have written a lot of [FAKE] books, of
which
no page exists any more. But a
Portuguese [FAKE] translation of his Andalusian
[FAKE]
list of rulers from 1344 has been preserved.
If it coincides with officially taught Spanish history
today, then one can imagine why." (p.235)
-- Topper reports with the data of the
Spanish
historian Ignacio Olagüe: The Arab "invasion"
of Spain consists only of
legends and
falsifications, and there are [of course!] NO
sources available (p.235)
Topper quote:
"So there are no sources and chronicles about the
Arab 'invasion' [of 711], says Olagüe.
Everything we consider as such are
repetitions of
medieval legends and novels. The Christian
texts are no better." (p. 235)
What have the criminal Jesus Fantasy monks in Spain
INVENTED? Here are more INVENTED historians!!!
11.4.2. Criminal "Christians" ARE INVENTING a lot:
The FABRICATED FAKE historian Mr. Isodor Pacense
- the FABRICATED FAKE historian Mr. San Ildefonso
- FABRICATED FAKE battles against Islam on the Iberian
Peninsula
-- Another FAKE historian is Isidor Pacense,
he has been exposed as a fake since 1800 (p.235)
-- The FAKE historian San Ildefonso - a
FAKE bishop - is attributed a FAKE chronicle "Mozarabic
Chronicle" (ESP: "Crónica mozárabe", "Chronicon de
Isidoro Pacense") from "754", whereby "Mozarabers" are
supposed to be the "Christians" under Muslim rule on the
Iberian Peninsula, but these Muslims on the Iberian
Peninsula NEVER existed [web09]
-- Another FAKE historian is
San Ildefonso
(with FAKE death 667), his "chronicle" has also been
exposed, it was written around the year 1000 by a faking
Jesus Fantasy monk (p.235)
-- Mossad Wikipedia states: The FAKE archbishop "
Ildefonso
de Toledo" (FAKE birth in 607, FAKE death in
667, FAKE life always in Toledo) was a FAKE archbishop
from 657 to 667, but in his works NO chronicle can be
found [web10] [the FAKE chronicle of FAKE Ildefonso has
yet to be found or composed]
-- Topper clearly states: In these FAKE chronicles of FAKE
Pacense and FAKE
Ildefonso,
among other things, 124,000 Chaldeans (=Muslims) are
depicted as having supposedly lost a FAKE battle, and
60,000 more are said to have "fled over the mountains"
(p.235)
-- There are also propagated "strange views on Islam"
(p.235), no one knows what is true with it or not, because
it is ALL INVENTED (p.236)
Topper quote:
"Some [stories about Spain] go back to [the FAKE]
Isidor
Pacense, who has been known as a FAKE for two
hundred years [state year 2000]. Also, the [FAKE]
Chronicle of
San Ildefonso ('died 667') is,
»as we know today, written two
to three centuries after his [FAKE] death.
« (p. 45) Thus, one is aware of the
forgery processes. Today, people also laugh at the
impossible news that are found in these chronicles, such
as about the
124,000 Chaldeans (here =
Muslims) who were slain in the [FAKE]
Battle of
Covadonga, with another [FAKE] 60,000 fleeing
over the mountains; or about the strange views of Islam
that are propagated there. But one tries to separate the
wheat from the chaff and extracts what is somewhat (p.
235) useful; the corrupted remainder is thrown overboard.
Thus, the forged history is converted into a purified but
one more time forged new creation." (p. 236)
11.5. Muslims are said to have been in
Spain since 711, but Islam only came 200 years later (!)
11.5.1. FAKER monks ARE INVENTING invasions for Spain,
councils, regulations, emirs, caliphs, bishops, church
fathers, and metropolitans, etc.
-- The faker Jesus Fantasy monks thus INVENTED a Muslim
invasion of 711 - but they could NOT DESCRIBE Islam ITSELF
at all (!) (p. 236)
-- And the
FAKE councils of Elvira, Toledo, etc.
are just an "incredible mess" with regulations against
Moses Fantasy Jews, sexuality, and against people of other
faiths (p. 236)
-- Exactly 200 years later, in 911, a FAKE
counter-caliph
Abd-er-Rahman III. is said to have been proclaimed in
Andalusia - all a LIE (p. 236)
-- Here are the FAKE data from the Mossad Wikipedia about
Abd-er-Rahman III. (also Abd ar-Rahman III) in Córdoba
(Andalusia): Spanish "Abderramán", FAKE birth in 889, FAKE
death on Oct 15, 961 at Córdoba - from 912 to 929 he was
the eighth FAKE emir, from 929 to 961 he was the first
FAKE caliph of Córdoba - during his time, the FAKE
suppression of the FAKE rebellion of FAKE 'Umar ibn Hafsun
took place [web11]
-- Starting in 911, the first Islamic elements appear in
Spain (persons, inscriptions, manuscripts) (p.236)
Topper Zitat:
"Erstaunlich ist bei dieser Sichtung der alten Texte immer
wieder, dass die christlichen Theologen erst gegen Ende
des 9. Jahrhunderts allmählich eine frühe Form des Islams
kennenlernen, und es dauerte noch ein Jahrhundert, bis
eine Auseinandersetzung mit der Konkurrenz-Religion
begann. Möglicherweise — so wäre eine Schlussfolgerung —
hat der Islam in Andalusien erst mit der
[FAKE]-Thronbesteigung von [FAKE]-
Abd-er-Rahman
(„III.“) 911 begonnen. Von diesem Zeitpunkt an
haben wir archäologische Zeugen, Inschriften und erste
Manuskripte.
Alles, was vorher geschrieben wurde — auch auf
christlicher Seite —, ist vermutlich später
ausgedacht
worden. Das betrifft in ganz besonderem Masse die
angeblichen
Konzilien von Elvira, Toledo usw.,
die ein unfassbares
Durcheinander von Verordnungen
gegen Juden, Sex und Ketzer sind." (S.236)
Topper quote:
"What is astonishing about this examination of the old
texts is that Christian theologians only gradually became
acquainted with an early form of Islam towards the end of
the 9th century, and it took another century for a
confrontation with the competing religion to begin.
Perhaps — this would be a conclusion — Islam only began in
Andalusia with the [FAKE] ascension of [FAKE]
Abd-er-Rahman
('III.') in 911. From that point on, we have
archaeological evidence, inscriptions, and early
manuscripts.Everything that was written before — even on
the Christian side — was presumably invented later. This
particularly concerns the alleged
councils of
Elvira, Toledo, etc., which are an
incomprehensible
jumble of ordinances
against Jews, sex, and heretics." (p.236)
-- hier sind noch zwei Beispiele von ERFUNDENEN
Persönlichkeiten in Spanien:
Topper Zitat:
"Auch
Isidor von Sevilla und
Julian
von Toledo sind schon inhaltlich als späte
Arbeiten, vielleicht kurz vor 1000 geschrieben,
erkennbar." (S.236)
-- der FAKE-
Isidor von Sevilla hat die
FAKE-Literatur
der
FAKE-Antike im westlichen
Mittelmeerraum "bewahrt" - Mossad-Wikipedia gibt die
FAKE-Daten bekannt:
-- here are two more examples of INVENTED personalities in
Spain:
Topper quote:
"
Isidor of Seville and
Julian of
Toledo are already recognizably late works,
perhaps written just before 1000." (p.236)
-- the FAKE
Isidor of Seville has
"preserved" the
FAKE literature of the
FAKE
Antiquity in the western Mediterranean -
Mossad-Wikipedia announces the FAKE-dates:
Isidor von Sevilla (lateinisch
Isidorus
Hispalensis; FAKE-Geburt um 560, FAKE-Tod am 4.4.636
in Sevilla, war
FAKE-Bischof von Sevilla,
ist dort auch als ein FAKE-"Heiliger Isidor" bekannt - er
"kompilierte" das FAKE-"Wissen der Antike" des westlichen
Mittelmeerraums, "verband es mit der
Patristik " und machte
FAKE-Publikationen [die kamen von den kr. Fälscher-Mönchen
in der Renaissance]. [Der FAKE]-Isidor gehörte zu den
meistgelesenen [FAKE]-Autoren des [FAKE]-Mittelalters. Er
schuf [FAKE]-Grundlagen der
mozarabischen
[FAKE]-Liturgie."
Isidore of Seville (Latin
Isidorus
Hispalensis; FAKE-birth around 560, FAKE-death
on April 4, 636 in Seville, was a
FAKE bishop of
Seville, also known there as FAKE 'Saint
Isidore' - he 'compiled' the FAKE 'knowledge of antiquity'
of the western Mediterranean, 'connected it with
patristics' and made FAKE publications [that came from the
kr. forger-monks in the Renaissance]. [The FAKE] Isidore
was one of the most read [FAKE] authors of the [FAKE]
Middle Ages. He created [FAKE] foundations of the
Mozarabic [FAKE] liturgy.
-- der FAKE-
Julian von Toledo war ein
FAKE-Autor
und "Metropolit" in Toledo mit FAKE-Geburt um
642 und FAKE-Tod am 6.3.690 - Daten sind nur aus einer
FAKE-Biographie "Vita seu elogium" von seinem
FAKE-Nachfolger
Felix von Toledo vorhanden - persönliche
Daten über Statur, Aussehen, Familenverhältnisse sind
KEINE vorhanden - der FAKE-Julian von Toledo schrieb
FAKE-Kommentare - FAKE-Bibelauslegungen - und eine
FAKE-Chronik über den FAKE-König Wamba "Historia Wambae
regis" (FAKE-König der Westgoten "672-680" [web14]) als
"vorbildlichen christlichen Herrscher" - der FAKE-Julian
von Toledo macht Propaganda für eine zum FAKE-König wie
zum Fantasie-Gott und betont seine Abneigung gegen
Moses-Fantasie-Juden - und seine Abneigung gegen die
Franken, die KEINE Abneigung zu Juden pflegen [web13]
-- the FAKE
Julian of Toledo was a
FAKE
author and 'Metropolitan' in Toledo with a
FAKE-birth around 642 and FAKE-death on March 6, 690 -
data only exists from a FAKE-biography "Life or eulogy"
(orig. Latin: "Vita seu elogium") by his FAKE-successor
Felix
of Toledo - personal data about stature,
appearance, family relations are NOT available - the
FAKE-Julian of Toledo wrote FAKE-commentaries - FAKE-Bible
interpretations - and a FAKE-chronicle about the FAKE-king
Wamba "The Story of King Wamba" (orig. Latin: "Historia
Wambae regis") (a FAKE-king of the Visigoths '672-680'
[web14]) as a 'model Christian ruler' - the FAKE-Julian of
Toledo engages in propaganda for a FAKE-king like for a
fantasy god and emphasizes his aversion against
Moses-fantasy-Jews - and his aversion against the Franks,
who do NOT harbor aversion towards the Moses Fantasy Jews
[web13]
11.5.2. Die kriminelle Fantasie des "Fegefeuers" ist
auch im Mohammed-Fantasie-Islam vorhanden
-- gegen 1200 integriert der Islam die Fantasie vom
"Fegefeuer" [und betreibt auch Scheiterhaufen] gegen Leute
anderen Glaubens, Juden etc.] (S.236)
-- die Fantasie vom "Fegefeuer" ist heute noch
"volkstümlich" vorhanden (S.236)
Topper Zitat:
"Verbindungsglied zwischen der Ausbildung des
Katholizismus und des Islams ist wieder jene fremdartige
Vorstellung vom Fegefeuer. Sie kommt auch im Islam gegen
1200 auf und hat sich mehrere Jahrhunderte hindurch
gehalten, volkstümlich ist sie heute noch Bestandteil des
islamischen Glaubens." (S.236)
11.5.2. The criminal Fantasy of the "Purgatory" is also
present in the Mohammed Fantasy Islam
-- around 1200, Islam integrates the fantasy of
"Purgatory" [and also conducts bonfires] against people of
other faiths, Jews, etc. (p.236)
-- the fantasy of "Purgatory" is still "popular" today
(p.236)
[-- but death penalty in Muhammad Fantasy Islam is
realized more with stones or hanging than with stakes].
Topper quote:
"The connecting link between the development of
Catholicism and Islam is again that strange notion of
Purgatory. It also emerged in Islam around 1200 and has
persisted for several centuries; it is still a part of
popular belief in Islam today." (p.236)
11.5.3. "Christen" erfinden einen "Mantel des heiligen
Martin"
-- etwa zur selben Zeit erfanden Fälscher-Mönche in
Frankreich neue Geschichten um einen "
Mantel des
heiligen Martin" (S.236)
-- und plötzlich sollen auch FAKE-Kalifen Muawiya und Ali
sich um Mäntel gestritten haben, sie vertreten die beiden
Hauptrichtungen des FAKE-Islams (S.236)
Topper Zitat:
11.5.3. "Christians" are inventing a "cloak of Saint
Martin"
-- around the same time, counterfeit monks in France
invented new stories about a "cloak of Saint Martin"
(p.236)
-- and suddenly, FAKE caliphs Muawiya and Ali are said to
have argued over cloaks, representing the two main
branches of FAKE Islam (p.236)
Topper quote:
In France, a cult surrounding the cloak of Saint
Martin has developed early on. His cape was
stored in a small building ('chapel'), and whoever wore it
had command authority. The dispute over the power of who
is allowed to drape the cloak over whom (the 'vest', hence
the investiture controversy) was likely first sharply
manifested between [FAKE]
Muawiya and
[FAKE]
Ali, the early [FAKE]-Caliphs of
[FAKE]-Islam. The freely elected caliph Muawiya stood
against the blood relative and son-in-law of the Prophet,
Ali. This power struggle, the Islamic conflict between
Sunni and Shia, was transferred to the tussle between
emperor and pope over the authority to appoint spiritual
lords (bishops, etc.). But even here it is not a real
struggle for power, but rather a historical representation
through which the battle was fought. The formation of the
patterns — be it the Holy Book or the political
consequence — is an almost simultaneous process with inner
dependency.
"Früh herausgebildet hat sich
in Frankreich ein
Kult um den Mantel des heiligen Martin. Seine
capa (Mantel) wurde in einem kleinen Gebäude aufbewahrt
(„Kapelle“), und wer sie trug, hatte Befehlsgewalt. Der
Streit um die Macht, wer wem den Mantel umhängen darf (die
„Weste“, daher Investiturstreit), ist wohl erstmals in
aller Schärfe zwischen [FAKE]-
Muawiya und
[FAKE]-
Ali, den frühen [FAKE]-Kalifen des
[FAKE[-Islams, vorgebildet. Der freigewählte Kalif Muawiya
stand gegen den Blutsverwandten und Schwiegersohn des
Propheten, Ali. Dieser Machtstreit, der islamische Streit
zwischen Sunna und Schia, wurde auf das Gerangel zwischen
Kaiser und Papst um die Befugnis zur Einsetzung
geistlicher Herren (Bischöfe usw.) übertragen. Doch auch
hier handelt es sich nicht um einen tatsächlichen
Machtkampf, sondern um eine geschichtliche Darstellung,
mit deren Hilfe der Kampf ausgefochten wurde. Die
Herausbildung der Muster — sei es das Heilige (S.236) Buch
oder die politische Konsequenz – ist ein fast zeitgleicher
Vorgang mit innerer Abhängigkeit." (S.236)
11.6. When Islam was coming up [Islam
Fantasy exists from the 10th century, NOT before]
11.6.1. Islam needed 150 years to form itself -
existence since the 10th century
-- Muhammad is FAKE [just as the Fantasy Moses in Judaism
and the Fantasy Jesus in Christianity are FAKES] (p.237)
-- The beginnings of the Fantasy Islam are "completely in
the dark" and the forming time needs at least 150 years
and Islam is only present since the 10th century,
according to the study of Topper in Morocco and in Iran
(p.237)
-- traditional Islamic studies rejects the new research
and are insisting on the INVENTION that the FAKE Islam has
spread "in a flash" from Egypt to Morocco - this is all
INVENTION (p.237)
Topper Zitat:
"Wenn nun das Jahrzehnt, das traditionellerweise für die
Entstehung des Islams in Medina angegeben wird, 622-632,
nicht mehr stimmen kann, sondern der tatsächliche Anfang
völlig
im Dunkeln liegt und eine mindestens
150jährige Entwicklungsphase dazugehört, muss untersucht
werden, wo der Islam in seiner bekannten Form historisch
erfassbar wird. Ich habe mir zwei Aussengebiete
vorgenommen (1994)*,
* Artikel von Uwe Topper: Portugiesenbauten im Hohen Atlas
[Gebirge in Marokko]; In: Alomgaren XXIV / XXV, S.335-344;
Hallein 1994
das Berbergebiet und den Iran, und bei
beiden zeigen können, dass dort vor dem 10. Jahrhundert
vom Islam nicht die Rede sein kann. Der Einwand, dass der
Islam dann eben drei Jahrhunderte gebraucht habe, bis er
diese fernen Ränder erreicht hätte, wird von der
Wissenschaft völlig abgelehnt, weil die blitzartige
Ausbreitung ein unumstössliches Standardbild für den Islam
geworden ist."
Topper quote:
"If the decade traditionally cited for the emergence of
Islam in Medina, 622-632, can no longer be correct, but
the actual beginning lies
completely in the dark
and is accompanied by at least a 150-year developmental
phase, then it must be examined where Islam becomes
historically identifiable in its known form. I have
focused on two outer regions (1994)*,
* Article by Uwe Topper: Portuguese buildings in the High
Atlas [mountains in Morocco]; In: Alomgaren XXIV / XXV,
pp. 335-344; Hallein 1994
the Berber region and Iran, and in both
cases I can show that before the 10th century, there can
be no mention of Islam there. The objection that Islam
took three centuries to reach these far borders is
completely rejected by academia, because the rapid spread
has become an irrefutable standard image of Islam."
[The book 'Goodbye Mohammed' by Norbert G. Pressburg -
the same result as Topper
In this book, the original Quran is examined in Aramaic.
All impossibilities in the Quran are presented in a
neutral way, leading to a real translations. And like
Topper, Pressburg concludes that the first 300 years of
Islam are INVENTED, along with the first 5 caliphs, who
are also INVENTED -
index
link].
11.6.2. Morocco with the Berber Empire of the
Barghawatas 700 to 1059 - Berber=Imasirs - Berber
religion=mixed of Berber, Jewish, and Byzantine
-- Mossad-Wikipedia about the Empire of the Barghawatas:
The Barghawatas (also Barghwata, Berghouata) were a Berber
tribal union and a religious movement that ruled an area
on the Atlantic coast between the 8th and 11th centuries -
today in Morocco - they belonged to the Masmuda community
(
Link).
After the coalition with the Sufri rebellion against the
[FAKE]-Umayyad Caliphate, they established an independent
state in the year 744 in the area of Tamesna (
Link)
on the Atlantic coast between Safi and Salé [in Morocco]
under the leadership of Tarif al-Matghari (
Link),
which survived until 1058.
-- Mossad-Wikipedia über das Reich der
Barghawatas:
Die Barghawatas (auch Barghwata, Berghouata) waren ein
berberischer Stammesverband und eine religiöse Bewegung,
die zwischen dem 8. und 11.Jh. ein Gebiet an der
Atlantikküste regierte - heute in Marokko - sie gehörten
der Masmuda-Gemeinschaft an (Link).
Nach der Koalition mit der Sufri-Rebellion gegen das
[FAKE]-Umayyaden-Kalifat richteten sie unter der Führung
von Tarif al-Matghari (Link)
im Jahre 744 in der Gegend von Tamesna (Link)
an der Atlantikküste zwischen Safi und Salé einen
unabhängigen Staat ein, der bis 1058 überlebte.
Topper Zitat:
"Im
Land der Berber (oder richtigerweise
Imasiren)
bestand von etwa 700 bis 1059, also vom Ende der
byzantinischen Herrschaft bis zum Almoravidensturm, das
mächtige Reich der Berghwata (Enzyklopädie des Islam)*.
*Enzyklopädie des Islam; 4 Bände; Leiden-Leipzig 1913-1934
Die Religion dieses Stammesverbandes kann zwar schon als
synkretistische Vorform des Islams bezeichnet werden, vor
allem in der Endphase vermischt mit jüdischen und
byzantinischen Elementen, ist aber doch noch deutlich
verschieden von allem, was heute unter Islam verstanden
wird." (S.237)
-- Sprache: berberisch - Muslime-Sunniten ab 911 sind
totale Feinde der Berber - die berberische Mischreligion
hat sich bis heute erhalten
Topper quote:
"In the
land of the Berbers (or more
accurately, the
Amazigh), from around 700
to 1059, that is from the end of Byzantine rule to the
Almoravid invasion, there existed the powerful kingdom of
the Berghwata (Encyclopedia of Islam)*.
*Encyclopedia of Islam; 4 volumes; Leiden-Leipzig
1913-1934
The religion of this tribal confederation can be
considered a syncretistic precursor to Islam, especially
in its final phase, mixed with Jewish and Byzantine
elements, but it is still clearly different from
everything that is understood as Islam today." (p. 237)
-- Language: Berber - Sunni Muslims from 911 are total
enemies of the Berbers - the Berber mixed religion has
been preserved to this day.
Topper Zitat:
"Die heiligen Bücher waren in Berberisch abgefasst,
Arabisch war unbekannt, und die ab
911
auftretenden Sunniten waren die ärgsten Feinde. Wenn nicht
arabische Historiker bis hin zu Ibn Chaldun uns diese
Geschichte selbst erzählt hätten, wäre sie vielleicht
weniger glaubwürdig. Im westlichen Bereich, am Atlantik,
hat die Bevölkerung diese Mischreligion teilweise noch mit
ihren alten Riten und Glaubensinhalten bewahrt, was als
Bekräftigung gelten muss (Topper 1998)." (S.237)
11.6.3. Das FAKE-Rolandslied aus Frankreich gegen alle
Muslime in Spanien - es waren BERBER - und der Vor-Islam
war gemischt
-- Franzosen haben einen speziellen Kampfgeist - von dort
kam nicht nur ein erster Aufruf zum Kreuzzug, sondern auch
das "Rolandslied", das einen FAKE-Kreuzzug in Spanien
gegen Muslime in Spanien beschreibt (S.237-238)
Topper quote:
"The holy books were written in Berber, Arabic was
unknown, and the Sunnis who appeared from
911
onwards were the greatest enemies. If Arab historians up
to Ibn Khaldun had not told us this story themselves, it
might be less credible. In the western area, along the
Atlantic, the population has partly preserved this mixed
religion with their old rites and beliefs, which must be
considered as affirmation (Topper 1998)." (p. 237)
11.6.3. The FAKE Song of Roland from France against all
Muslims in Spain - they were BERBERS - and pre-Islam was
mixed
-- The French have a special fighting spirit - not only
did the first call for the Crusades come from there, but
also the "Song of Roland," which describes a FAKE Crusade
in Spain against Muslims in Spain that did NOT exist there
(p. 237-238)
Topper Zitat:
"Ein weiteres Zeugnis ist das Rolandslied, das von dem
Dichter
Turold während des Aufrufs zum
ersten Kreuzzug nach Palästina geschaffen wurde (1096).
Vorgeschichte dazu war der Beginn der christlichen
Eroberung Südspaniens. Die im Rolandslied enthaltenen
„historischen" (S.237) Behauptungen, etwa dass der
200jährige Kaiser Karl Spanien bis nach
Sevilla
erobert oder das
sarazenische [muslimische] Heer im
Ebro ersäuft hätte, nimmt niemand mehr ernst.
Aber sonst hält man recht viel auf dieses älteste Dokument
fränkischer Heldendichtung." (S.238)
-- das FAKE-Rolandslied schildert einen ganz anderen Islam
als das, was heute "Islam" bedeutet, das war scheinbar
eine richtige Beschreibung des Islams im Vorstadium
(S.238)
-- der Islam im Vorstadium soll mehrere Götter enthalten,
z.B. die drei
Mohammed (der FAKE-Gründer des
Islam), Apollin (aus der FAKE-Offenbarung) und
Tervagant (berberische Waldgottheit) (S.238)
Topper quote:
"Another testimony is the
Song of Roland,
which was created by the poet
Turold during
the call to the First Crusade to Palestine (1096). The
background was the beginning of the Christian conquest of
Southern Spain. The 'historical' claims contained in the
Song of Roland, such as that the 200-year-old Emperor
Charlemagne conquered Spain up to
Seville
or
drowned the Saracenic [Muslim] army in the Ebro,
are no longer taken seriously. But otherwise, there is a
considerable amount of respect for this oldest document of
Frankish heroic poetry. " (p. 238)
-- the FAKE Song of Roland depicts a completely different
Islam than what is meant by “Islam” today, it seems to be
a correct depiction of the Islam in its early stage (p.
238)
-- the Islam in its early stage is said to contain
multiple gods, e.g., the three following ones:
Mohammed
(the FAKE founder of Islam), Apollin (from the FAKE
revelation), and Tervagant (a Berber forest deity)
(p. 238)
Topper Zitat:
"Ich will nur einen Punkt herauslösen: Die Vorstellungen
vom Islam im Rolandslied sind ganz anders, als wir es
heute lernen. Das könnte der Vorsorge entsprechen, über
gegnerische Ideen nichts Wahres verlauten zu lassen,
zugleich auch bedeuten, dass das christliche Volk über den
Islam anderes wusste als wir heute. Nach angeblich 450
Jahren islamischer Nachbarschaft und Auseinandersetzung
mit dem Abendland ist das bedeutsam. Es ist nur denkbar,
dass sich die Entstehung des modernen Islams gerade damals
abspielte. Da werden drei Götter des Islams genannt,
Mohammed,
Apollin und Tervagant. Mohammed ist
bekanntlich der
Gründer. Der zweite,
Apollin, ist ein
teuflischer Geist, den wir nur aus der [FAKE]-Offenbarung
des Johannes kennen. Und
Tervagant ist uns
heute völlig unbekannt: Es ist die berberische
Waldgottheit,
eine Art weiblicher
Pan oder
Silvanus,
also eine heidnische Göttin der Nordafrikaner. Selbst wenn
der Dichter bewusst den Islam als heidnisch hinstellen
wollte, hätte er doch diese Namen nur dann benutzen
können, wenn er seinerzeit auch verstanden wurde. Ich
schliesse aus diesen Hinweisen, dass die Offenbarung des
Johannes noch eng mit dem Islam zusammenhing und dass die
Berber – die echten Kriegsgegner von Karl – noch Heiden
waren." (S.238)
Topper quote:
"I want to point out just one thing: The ideas about Islam
in the 'Song of Roland' are quite different from what we
learn today. This could correspond to a precaution not to
speak the truth about opposing ideas, and it could also
mean that the Christian people knew different things about
Islam than we do today. After supposedly 450 years of
Islamic coexistence and conflict with the West, this is
significant. It is conceivable that the emergence of
modern Islam took place around that time. Three gods of
Islam are mentioned:
Mohammed, Apollin, and
Tervagant. Mohammed is known as the founder.
The second,
Apollin, is a devilish spirit
whom we only know from the [FAKE] Revelation of [FAKE]
John. And
Tervagant is completely unknown
to us today: It is the Berber
forest deity,
a kind of female
Pan or
Silvanus,
thus a pagan goddess of North Africans. Even if the poet
wanted to deliberately portray Islam as pagan, he could
only use these names if he were understood at the time.
From these hints, I conclude that the [FAKE] Revelation of
[FAKE] John was still closely related to [FAKE] Islam and
that the Berbers – the real opponents of [FAKE] Karl –
were still pagans [Mother Earth religion]." (p.238)
11.6.4. Der Iran mit Feuerkult von Zarathustra - kaum
archäologische Funde der iranischen Zoroastrier
vorhanden - Flucht nach Indien
-- Iran mit Feuerkult von Zarathustra (S.238)
Topper Zitat:
"Im Iran gelingt der Nachweis der späten Ausbreitung noch
besser. Als Einführung des Islams kann 1003 gelten (in
anderen Berechnungen schon 999), das Jahr, in dem
Mahmud
von Ghasna sich zum Herrscher der Gläubigen
ausrufen und entsprechende
Münzen prägen
liess. Bis dahin hatte er noch den heidnischen Dichter
Firdosi und dessen gewaltiges
Heldenlied
des iranischen Heidentums, das
Schahname
(Buch der Könige), gefördert. Darin werden zwar nach altem
Schema die angrenzenden Länder im Norden (
Turan)
und im Westen (
Zweistromland) als Herrschaft
des Bösen und der Dunkelheit bezeichnet, aber im Iran
selbst, wo das Licht wohnt, gibt es nur echt
persischen
Feuerkult:
Zarathustras Lehre
beherrscht noch das Land (S.238)."
We change to Iran now:
11.6.4. Iran with the fire cult of Zoroaster - hardly
any archaeological findings of the Iranian Zoroastrians
are available - flight to India
-- Iran with the Fire Cult of Zoroaster (p. 238)
Topper quote:
"In Iran, the evidence of late dissemination is even
better. The introduction of Islam can be dated to 1003 (in
other calculations already 999), the year in which
Mahmud
of Ghazni declared himself ruler of the
believers and had corresponding
coins
minted. Until then, he had still promoted the pagan poet
Ferdowsi
and his monumental
hero song (epic) of Iranian
paganism, the
Shahnameh (Book
of Kings). In it, the neighboring countries in the north (
Turan)
and in the west (
the land between the rivers)
are labeled as realms of evil and darkness according to
old schema, but in Iran itself, where light resides, there
is only genuinely
Persian fire cult:
Zoroaster's
doctrine still dominate the land (p. 238)."
-- Iran mit kufischem Arabisch und Bujidenkalifen - erste
neupersische (islamische) Handschriften sind erst ab dem
10.Jh. vorhanden (S.239)
-- die islamische Eroberung des Irans um 660 ist ERFUNDEN
(S.239)
Topper Zitat:
"Die älteste islamische Inschrift im Iran, noch in
kufischem Arabisch, stammt von 955 und steht
neben einer heidnischen Inschrift in mittelpersischen
Lettern der letzten Sassaniden. Der erste
Bujidenkalif liess sie anbringen. Vor dem
10.
Jahrhundert scheint es auch keine
neupersischen
(das heisst islamischen) Handschriften zu
geben. Das mag jeden erstaunen, der daran gewöhnt ist,
dass die islamische Eroberung des Irans schon um 660
abgeschlossen war." (S.239)
-- archäologische Fundstücke sind von den Zoroastriern mit
ihrem Zarathustra-Kult kaum vorhanden - und dann flohen
sie nach Indien (S.239)
-- Iran with Kufic Arabic and Buwayhid caliphs - the first
New Persian (Islamic) manuscripts are only present from
the 10th century (p. 239)
-- the Islamic conquest of Iran around 660 is INVENTED (p.
239)
Topper quote:
"The oldest Islamic inscription in Iran, still in
Kufic
Arabic, dates from 955 and is located next to
a pagan inscription in Middle Persian letters from the
last Sassanids. The first
Buwayhid caliph
ordered it to be installed. Before the
10th century,
there seems to be no
New Persian (that is, Islamic)
manuscripts either. This may astonish anyone
accustomed to the belief that the Islamic conquest of Iran
was already completed around 660." (p. 239)
-- archaeological finds from the Zoroastrians with their
Zoroaster cult are hardly present - and then they fled to
India (p. 239)
Topper Zitat:
"Wenn aber nur archäologisch einwandfrei datierbare
Fundstücke zugrunde gelegt werden, sieht das Ergebnis
mager aus. Die
Parsen, das sind die
Zoroastrier,
die vor der islamischen Eroberung des Irans nach der
Gegend von Bombay in Indien flohen, berichten in ihren
Geschichtsbüchern, dass dies etwa um das Jahr 1000
geschehen sei. Da sie sich später in der Jahreszählung
nicht mehr sicher waren, führten sie im 19. Jahrhundert
jahrzehntelang blutige Kämpfe untereinander, konnten aber
keine Einigung erzielen. Kalender und Chronik sind eben
doch sehr vage Angelegenheiten, darauf verlassen kann man
sich nicht. Wenn Sprünge bis zur Grössenordnung von
300 Jahren möglich sind, dann hat diese
Geschichtsschreibung keinen chronologischen Wert." (S.239)
Topper quote:
"However, if only archaeologically verifiable artifacts
are considered, the result looks meager. The
Parsis,
who are the
Zoroastrians that fled to the
area around Bombay, India, before the Islamic conquest of
Iran, report in their history books that this occurred
around the year 1000. Since they were no longer sure about
the chronology later, they engaged in decades of bloody
battles among themselves in the 19th century but could not
reach an agreement. Calendars and chronicles are indeed
very vague matters; one cannot rely on them. If gaps of up
to 300 years are possible, then this historiography has no
chronological value." (p.239)
11.7. Moses Fantasy Judaism since 1021
-- The oldest documents for Moses Fantasy Judaism are "to
be dated to the year 1021" in India (p. 239)
-- Judaism was NOT present earlier in Germany and France,
too (p. 239)
Topper quote:
"The same applies to the Jewish documents. According to
the Encyclopedia Judaica, the oldest preserved document in
the Indus Valley, a
bronze plaque, is dated
to 750, but is more likely to be dated to the year
1021.
This corresponds exactly to the beginning of Jewish
presence in German and French (Frankish) cities." (p. 239)
11.8. The Islamic center states: Islam
exists since 930 only
-- The palaces of the Umayyad caliphs are NOT Islamic (p.
239)
-- Frescoes are NOT Islamic: sun god Ahura Mazda -
"Christian" FAKE crosses with vine tendrils, etc. (pp.
239-240)
Topper quote:
"In the center of Arab rule, the indications of late
emergence are also very numerous. I would like to mention
the
palaces of the Umayyad caliphs, which
in late antique architectural style with their typically
Sassanian decor and wall paintings
cannot be
defined as Islamic in any way. Those who
cannot travel to Jordan and Iraq to convince themselves
can look at the monumental remains of the
palace of
Mschatta, which were transported to the
Pergamon Museum at Berlin in 1903 – or reproductions of
the
frescoes of these desert castles, on
which naked women, wrestlers, allegorical goddesses can be
seen, and caliphs wearing the winged sun of the pagan god
Ahura Mazda on their heads (p. 239).
There are even typically
'Christian' [FAKE] crosses
with vine tendrils in many palaces, such as in
Samarra in the 9th century. There is no trace of any
fanatical Islam to be found until around the year of 930,
and the descriptions in the [FAKE] history books are
FAKE." (p.240)
-- As for the analysis of the Mohammed-fantasy Islam, one
should read the essays by Topper:
Topper quote:
"This brief survey may be enough to indicate the line, for
details I refer to my essays."
-- Article by Uwe Topper: Portuguese buildings in the High
Atlas [mountain range in Morocco] (orig. German:
Portugiesenbauten im Hohen Atlas [Gebirge
in Marokko]); In: Alomgaren XXIV / XXV, pp.
335-344; Hallein 1994
-- Article by Uwe Topper: About some oral traditions of
the Imazighen of the High Atlas in Morocco (orig. ESP:
Acerca de algunas tradiciones orales de los Imazighen del
Alto Atlas marroquí); In: Yearbook of the University of
Cádiz; Spain 1998
-- Book by Uwe and Uta Topper: Rock Art in the Province of
Cádiz (orig. ESP: Arte rupestre de la Provincia de Cádiz);
Cádiz (Spain) 1988